Joseph & Thomas Bloomer

[maryann]

Help please with Joseph & Thomas Bloomer.
I believe Joseph Bloomer who married Mary Darby( on BCC) 19 Nov 1798 St. Thomas Dudley (Jan did look-up) is the father of Joseph & Thomas. The IGI has three listings for sons born to Joseph & Mary Bloomer Christened at Chapelry of Cradley as follows:
Joseph Bloomer C 22 Sept 1799
George Bloomer C 6 May 1801 (I added to BCC with wife, look up by RF)
Thomas Bloomer b. 23 May 1803 C 2 July 1803

Problem is I think Joseph is already on BCC with wife Phoebe Stevens, his b. shows about 1800. Thomas also is on BCC with wife Caroline Hadley, his b.about 1805. On census records Joseph & Thomas both indicate born Cradley. Their ages are close to christening data. They both has children name Joseph & Mary.
On 1841 Census Thomas is living a few doors from Joseph Sr. who by now is widowed. Don't know if this is enough evidence to show them as Joseph & Mary Bloomer's children, or just add another Joseph & Thomas. Suggestions, please.

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thomas 1805 on bcc connect to linnel maybe she has more info ?

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http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... mer-Family

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joseph was also added by linnel

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http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =413509754

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headstones photo

caroline victoria only daughter died feb 16 1846 age 3

Bloomer 2 - Caroline 1.jpg (265.19 KiB) Viewed 4319 times

caroline sedowia his wife died nov 16 1873 age 66

Bloomer 2 - Caroline sedowia wife of thomas 2.jpg (285.36 KiB) Viewed 4319 times

thomas of colley orchard house, cradley died 17 march 1872 age 69

Bloomer 2 - Thomas 1.jpg (314.72 KiB) Viewed 4319 times

[maryann]

Thanks Peterd, I talked with Linell several months ago and she had no other information on the Bloomer side.

[peterd]

for thomas and caroline there a big gap between the first two kids are there any missing ?

1841 Census High Town Cradley
Thomas Bloomer 35 Clerk Yes
Caroline 35 Yes
Giles 2
Philip 3 months

1851. Colleys Orchard, Tays Lane? Cradly
Thomas Bloomer, head, 47, Clerk (crossed out) manager of nail factory
Caroline, wife, 44, Rowley
William C, son, 20, manager of nail factory
Phillip J?, son, 10
Clifford E, son, 4
All others born Cradley

and where william in 1841 census age 10 ?

where clifford in 1861 ?


think both were away at boarding school

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Christening Notes
[Christening notes]from transcript...
Baps RR 16 Jan 1831
William Caleb Henry, s of Thomas & Caroline Sedonia Bloomer, Cradley, Nailfactor

1861 heywood,hill, halesowen

William Caleb Henry Bloomer 30 nail manufacturer, cradley
Martha Bloomer 22 wife halesowen
Eliza Cadd 27 servent old swinford


BLOOMER William C H GRANGER Martha 1857 Dudley, St Andrew West Midlands Dudley Register Office 205/002/129

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wills

cliford edward bloomer of shenstoneville halesowen died 3 june 1916 probate london 26 october to emmiline bloomer widow of harry bloomer architect and joseph smart auctioneer effects £12728.4s.11d

anyone find anything on the above ?

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will under £6000


William Caleb Henry Bloomer
Probate Date: 2 Jan 1873
Death Date: 5 Nov 1872
Death Place: Worcester, Worcestershire,
Registry: Principal Registry

the will of William Caleb Henry Bloomer late of halesowen in the county of worcester who died 5 nov 1872 in nablous in Palastine was proven at the principal registry by clifton edward bloomer of beulah lodge halesowen esquire the brother one of the excecutors

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will



Philip Hadley Bloomer
Probate Date: 16 Jul 1902
Death Date: 17 May 1902
Death Place: Worcestershire, England
Registry: Worcestershire, England


Philip Hadley Bloomer of st margaret well, Hasbury halesowen gentleman died 17 may 1902 probate worcester 16 july to giles thomas bloomer and clifton edward bloomer gentleman £16771.7s.3d resworn march 1903 £17022.0s.9d

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will


Giles Thomas Bloomer

Probate Date: 19 Sep 1918
Death Date: 4 Aug 1918
Death Place: Warwickshire,
Registry: Birmingham,

Giles Thomas Bloomer of manor rd, Dorridge warwickshire gentleman, died 4 Aug 1918 probate Birmingham 19 sept to thomas giles bloomer munition worker & reverend frank bloomer clerk £10863.10s.10d

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1881 Park Field, Lapal

Giles Thomas Bloomer 42 Nail Manufacturer cradley
Anne Elizabeth Bloomer 40
Thomas Giles Bloomer 8
William Bloomer 6
Arthur Bloomer 5
Harry Bloomer 3 (this harry marry emiline ?)
Edward Bloomer 2
Frank Bloomer 1
Sarah Ann Cartledge 35 nurse Bredon Brand, Leicestershire
Betsy Hulston 30 cook
Mary Gadd 16 housemaid dudley
rest halesowen

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1911 Cross Close Dorridge Warwickshire

Giles Thomas Bloomer 72 Retired Wrought Nail & Chain Manfr, cradley
Anne Elizabeth Bloomer 70 (married 40 years, 7 born, 7 living) leeds
Thomas Giles Bloomer 38 timber salesman, halesowen
Edward Bloomer 32 book clerk, halesowen
Edith Anne Bloomer 29, halesowen
Jane Ansell 34 servant



Marriages Sep 1870
BLOOMER Giles Thomas E. Retford 7b 1
Garland Anne Elizabeth E. Retford 7b 1



BLOOMER Giles T HADLEY Alice E 1931 Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 19/6/415

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wills

cliford edward bloomer of shenstoneville halesowen died 3 june 1916 probate london 26 october to emmiline bloomer widow of harry bloomer architect and joseph smart auctioneer effects £12728.4s.11d

anyone find anything on the above ?

1911; Ivanhoe Kineton Road Olton,

Harry Bloomer 33 Architect & Surveyor lapal
May Bloomer 29 (married 4 years, 2 born, 2 living) Hinckley, Leicestershire
Mary Garland Bloomer 4 olton
Harry Clifford Bloomer 2 olton
Sarah Jane Emily Margan 17 sevant exeter


poss mariage


Marriages Jun 1906

Bloomer Harry Bromsgrove 6c 707
Hemming Annie Louisa Bromsgrove 6c 707
MORTON George Bromsgrove 6c 707
Pickering May Bromsgrove 6c 707

[linell]

Bit more info Maryann:- Wm Caleb Bloomer born 1831 built the British School in Halesowen, and lived next door at Beulah Lodge, which was still there when I was a child:-

The British School was founded by Caleb Bloomer who built it in 1867 (then known as The Islington Ragged School). Caleb Bloomer’s father, Thomas Bloomer, was a nail ironmonger who had a warehouse on the canal and lived in Haywood House on Mucklow Hill.

Caleb Bloomer lived at Beulah Lodge on Stourbridge Road, and died in 1872. The school was later purchased by the Primitive Methodists and eventually amalgamated with the Congregational Church School from Great Cornbow, to become the British School.

Early last century the British School was purchased by Worcestershire County Council, becoming the Stourbridge Road County Primary School in 1908 and later the Hawne County Primary School, but was still better known locally as the British School until it was closed and demolished in the 1980’s.