ARC TBC - Arnold Edwin Fell
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ARC TBC - Arnold Edwin Fell
My brick wall is my grandfather Arnold Edwin Fell born Sheffield (Ecclesall Bierlow) on 29 Dec 1891. He married Maud Aaron on 29 July 1919 in East Ham, Essex. They had 2 children, my mother and uncle in 1921 and 1924.
He was a merchant seaman and I have his identity and service certificate number 24619 dated 22 Oct 1918; his rank is 4th officer. His service record shows he served on War Hound (vessel number 142704; he was engaged on 14 Nov 1918), Lodore (113143; Sept 1919), P?ain (28 Feb 1920) and La Rosarina (132823; 3 Sept 1921).
He is listed amongst the passengers on RMS Trent from New York to Southampton, arriving on 16 Mar 1914, having embarked at Barbados, and his occupation is given as seaman. He is also listed in the manifest of aliens employed on the vessel as members of crew of the SS Pyrrhus from London to New York via Plymouth, arriving on 25 May 1918; he is listed as an able seaman and was engaged on 9 May.
In 1919 he was in the RNVR and his service record, number MC1418, shows he was an able seaman on HMS Denis Casey on mine clearance operations. His service record shows that he was demobilised on 11 Sept.
He left my grandmother and their children some time after 1924. I have copies of court documents where Maud applied for custody of the children and for maintenance. His last known whereabouts were in Sept 1927 when he was living at 12 Clarence Road, Croydon, Surrey; however he was not on the electoral register at this address in either 1927 or 1928.
I'm just wondering where else I can go. Hope I've not forgotten anything...
He was a merchant seaman and I have his identity and service certificate number 24619 dated 22 Oct 1918; his rank is 4th officer. His service record shows he served on War Hound (vessel number 142704; he was engaged on 14 Nov 1918), Lodore (113143; Sept 1919), P?ain (28 Feb 1920) and La Rosarina (132823; 3 Sept 1921).
He is listed amongst the passengers on RMS Trent from New York to Southampton, arriving on 16 Mar 1914, having embarked at Barbados, and his occupation is given as seaman. He is also listed in the manifest of aliens employed on the vessel as members of crew of the SS Pyrrhus from London to New York via Plymouth, arriving on 25 May 1918; he is listed as an able seaman and was engaged on 9 May.
In 1919 he was in the RNVR and his service record, number MC1418, shows he was an able seaman on HMS Denis Casey on mine clearance operations. His service record shows that he was demobilised on 11 Sept.
He left my grandmother and their children some time after 1924. I have copies of court documents where Maud applied for custody of the children and for maintenance. His last known whereabouts were in Sept 1927 when he was living at 12 Clarence Road, Croydon, Surrey; however he was not on the electoral register at this address in either 1927 or 1928.
I'm just wondering where else I can go. Hope I've not forgotten anything...
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Re: Arnold Edwin Fell
he might be one of these two ?
Deaths Mar 1941
Fell Arnold 51 Liverpool S. 8b 149
Deaths Mar 1955
Fell Arnold 49 Sheffield 2d 419
death cert might give you an informent and an address ?
Deaths Mar 1941
Fell Arnold 51 Liverpool S. 8b 149
Deaths Mar 1955
Fell Arnold 49 Sheffield 2d 419
death cert might give you an informent and an address ?
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Re: Arnold Edwin Fell
Have you checked for a departure for him? There is one possible in 1925, heading for Gibraltar (FMP)
FELL Arnold 1890 M 1925 London Gibraltar Gibraltar
FELL Arnold 1890 M 1925 London Gibraltar Gibraltar
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Re: Arnold Edwin Fell
Thanks guys, and apologies for a late reply. I forgot to tick Notify me if a reply is posted!
It's possible he's one of those deaths peterd. I have the former's death certificate and it could possibly be him.
The departure to Gibraltar looks interesting gardener. Where was that? What is FMP?
Thanks both
Cheers G
It's possible he's one of those deaths peterd. I have the former's death certificate and it could possibly be him.
The departure to Gibraltar looks interesting gardener. Where was that? What is FMP?
Thanks both
Cheers G

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gandalf458x wrote:Thanks guys, and apologies for a late reply. I forgot to tick Notify me if a reply is posted!
It's possible he's one of those deaths peterd. I have the former's death certificate and it could possibly be him.
The departure to Gibraltar looks interesting gardener. Where was that? What is FMP?
Thanks both
Cheers G
what was the address and informant can you link them in to you info ?
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what was the address and informant can you link them in to you info ?
He died at the Consumption Hospital; the informant was B A Fell, his son, of 4 York Avenue, and his occupation was given as a chemical engineer. The change of occupation doesn't seem likely somehow, but is possible. It seems entirely possible that Arnold would have had another family somewhere but there's nothing to tie them together.
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Re: Arnold Edwin Fell
peterd wrote:Deaths Mar 1955
Fell Arnold 49 Sheffield 2d 419
death cert might give you an informent and an address ?
Fell Arnold, of 446 Retford Rd, Woodhouse Hii, Shefield. 13. died 14 Feb 1955 at the Royal Hospital Sheffield. Administration Wakefield 13 April to Hilda Gwendoline Fell widow.
Effects £567. 1s. 3d.
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England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
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Re: Arnold Edwin Fell
Name: Arnold Fell.
Spouse Surname: Edwards.
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1928.
Registration District: Sheffield.
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding.
Volume Number: 9c.
Page Number: 667.
Hilda G M Edwards.
Spouse Surname: Fell.
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1928.
Registration District: Sheffield.
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding.
Volume Number: 9c.
Page Number: 667.
Spouse Surname: Edwards.
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1928.
Registration District: Sheffield.
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding.
Volume Number: 9c.
Page Number: 667.
Hilda G M Edwards.
Spouse Surname: Fell.
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1928.
Registration District: Sheffield.
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding.
Volume Number: 9c.
Page Number: 667.
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Arnold E Fell.
Medal or Award: Victory Medal, British War Medal.
Service Year: 1914-1920.
Service Location: Europe.
Campaign or Service: World War I.
Service Number: M C 1418.
How issued or dispoed of (By B.O.T.)
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UK, Naval Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1972.
Medal or Award: Victory Medal, British War Medal.
Service Year: 1914-1920.
Service Location: Europe.
Campaign or Service: World War I.
Service Number: M C 1418.
How issued or dispoed of (By B.O.T.)
From Ancestry,
UK, Naval Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1972.
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Re: Arnold Edwin Fell
gardener wrote:Have you checked for a departure for him? There is one possible in 1925, heading for Gibraltar (FMP)
FELL Arnold 1890 M 1925 London Gibraltar Gibraltar
From Ancestry,
UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Arnold Fell.
Name: Arnold Fell.
Gender: Male.
Age: 35.
Birth Date: abt 1890.
Departure Date: 14 Aug 1925.
Port of Departure: London, England.
Destination Port: Gibraltar.
Ship Name: Malwa.
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Malwa' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: P and O S N Company.
Official Number: 127543.
Master: K Jenkins.
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Re: Arnold Edwin Fell
From Ancestry,
This one it states on image, height 5' 7', crucifix on l. forearm.
Arnold E Fell.
Arrival Date: 25 May 1918.
Birth Date: abt 1892.
Age: 26.
Gender: Male.
Ethnicity/ Nationality: White.
Port of Departure: London Via Plymouth.
Port of Arrival: New York, New York.
Ship Name: Pyrrhus.
Search Ship Database: Search the Pyrrhus in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database.
This one it states on image, height 5' 7', crucifix on l. forearm.
Arnold E Fell.
Arrival Date: 25 May 1918.
Birth Date: abt 1892.
Age: 26.
Gender: Male.
Ethnicity/ Nationality: White.
Port of Departure: London Via Plymouth.
Port of Arrival: New York, New York.
Ship Name: Pyrrhus.
Search Ship Database: Search the Pyrrhus in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database.
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Many thanks Jimmy
Interestingly I have the marriage certificate for Arnold with Hilda Gwendoline May Edwards at St George, Sheffield, on 25 Feb 1928.
Arnold is given as age 22, a bachelor, a miner; his father is John Thomas Fell, a cutler.
Hilda is age 21, a spinster; her father is William Henry, a tin smith.
Arnold's age is well out - he would have been about 36, and his father was Edwin, who happened to be a cutlery manager.
Interestingly I have the marriage certificate for Arnold with Hilda Gwendoline May Edwards at St George, Sheffield, on 25 Feb 1928.
Arnold is given as age 22, a bachelor, a miner; his father is John Thomas Fell, a cutler.
Hilda is age 21, a spinster; her father is William Henry, a tin smith.
Arnold's age is well out - he would have been about 36, and his father was Edwin, who happened to be a cutlery manager.
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Thanks again, Jimmy
I have his service record and medal card and his service on Pyrrhus which I found through Ancestry or Google/National Archives, but the Gibraltar journey wasn't given when I looked. That may have been his last trip as a merchant seaman.
I have his service record and medal card and his service on Pyrrhus which I found through Ancestry or Google/National Archives, but the Gibraltar journey wasn't given when I looked. That may have been his last trip as a merchant seaman.
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gandalf458x wrote:Many thanks Jimmy
Interestingly I have the marriage certificate for Arnold with Hilda Gwendoline May Edwards at St George, Sheffield, on 25 Feb 1928.
Arnold is given as age 22, a bachelor, a miner; his father is John Thomas Fell, a cutler.
Hilda is age 21, a spinster; her father is William Henry, a tin smith.
Arnold's age is well out - he would have been about 36, and his father was Edwin, who happened to be a cutlery manager.
Who are the witnesses for the marriage ?
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Who are the witnesses for the marriage ?
William H Edwards and Horace Fell
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