*To be Archived 24hrs*Strange Nickname

[Annie]

I would welcome any suggestions for what this nickname could be short for please Rodeyor Radey.
On the 1881 census RG11/4750 page 107
Cooper Terrace, Newington,Hull
I have William John & Ann Victoria Smith with Ann's children who are down in their stepfathers surname Smith correct name Faulkner.

The child I am having bother with is Rodey or Radey and not sure what it is short for , Rodey is 17 years old and born Dudley Staffordshire, she is not on the 1871 census with the family so I am really stuck with her , I have tried searching for Rhoda and even sent for a birth certificate for a Rhoda Faulkner born Dudley and it was not mine.

If anyone could help me please with any suggestions I would appreciate it.

Annie

[jac]

Hello Annie
There's this...
Info from West Midlands BMD
Romantiezer Faulkner 1863 Sub-district Rowley Regis Records at Sandwell

Info from FreeBMD
Romankiezer Faulkner June qtr Dudley vol.6c page 5

Jackie

[jac]

Annie
Sorry,the above appears to be a boy!! in 1871 living at Rowley Regis with parents Wlm + Hannah.

Jackie.

[Northern Lass]

Can you post the 1871 census Annie
and where were the family in 1891?

[Annie]

Hi Jac thank you for taking the time to try for me, I had taken look at that one myself.

Hi Northern Lass here are my Faulkner family on the 1871 & 1881 census. Hope you can understand it all

Annie

1871 census
RG10/4245 folio 94 page 5
Coc? Rd. Dalton, Barrow Lancs

Job Faulkner head age 34 Lab. Brick Works b Dudley Died 1876
Ann wife age 32 b Walsall
Edward son age 8 b Middsx
John son age 4 b Hendon Died 1876
Hannah dau age 1 b ? London
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Below is Ann V Faulkners mother Hannah with Richard their eldest son transcribed as Richard Hudlow
1871 census
RG10/2982 folio 43 page 33
Charles St., West Bromwich

Thomas Edwards head age 55 miner ? b West. Brom
Hannah wife age 25 b Bristol ?
RICHARD HUDLOWER grandson age 9 b London
Emma Heralern orphan child age 16 b West Brom.

Here we have another son belonging to Job & Ann V Faulkner
1871 census
RG10/2982 folio 82 page 29
Bushells Bldgs, Ryan or Ryden Gr, West Bromwich

Daniel Smith head age 37 Boiler maker b Warwickshire
Mary Elizabeth wife age 32 b Staffs. Walsall
JOB FAULTNER nephew age 9 b Middx London

By 1881 census Ann V is married to William John Smith and all the children are listed as Smith's, also Hanna my grandma is now Ann.
1881 Cooper Terrace Newington Hull

William John Smith Head age 40 General Labourer
Ann V Wife age 42
Edward Son age 18 General Lab
Jobe Son age 16 General Lab
Radey/ Rodey Dau age 17
Ann Dau age 11
Daniel Son age 8

[jac]

Annie
Do you have a birth certificate for any of the children belonging to Job +Ann,stating Ann's maiden name.The marriage on IGI www.familysearch.org for Job Faulkner + Ann Victoria Edwards is a submitted
entry not a parish register record. I've found that some submitted records are totally wrong, but, may be not in this case.
There is a marriage for a Job Faulkner +Ann Prince at St James church Dudley 1863 Info from West Midland BMD also on FreeBMD Sept.qtr 1863 vol 6c page41

Jackie

[jac]

Annie
I'm here again!!! have just seen the marriage to Job Forknell. I'll start looking again for the daug.with unusual name.
Jackie.

[gardener]

Hi
Only slight possibility that I see is

1871
Dudley
Edwin Edwards, 56 chain maker & grocer Old Hill, Staffs
Sarah ditto 58 Lye, Worcs
mary Harris? boarder unm 20 chain maker Worcester
Rhode Shaw visitor 6 Dudley

Just wondered if the Edwards connection worked out at all? In 1881 he seems to be born Warwickshire, Birmingham but Sarah is still Lye. can't find them in 1861 though.

OK scrap that because Rhoda Shaw is there in 1881 too so it can't be her. I'll leave the post to save anyone else going this route

[Jimmy]

Marriages Mar 1880.
Exton Hannah Casterton, Peterbro' 3b 320.
Faulkner Ann Victoria. Peterbro' 3b 320.
King John. Peterbro' 3b 320.
Smith William John. Peterbro' 3b 320.

[Jimmy]

West Midlands Marriage, 1860.
EDWARDS Ann V, FORKNELL Job, West Bromwich, All Saints, Sandwell Register Office. 22/9/90.

[Jimmy]

Submitted.

Daniel Faulkner.
Birth, 03 DEC 1873, Burslem, Stafford,
Death, 01 MAY 1939, Romford, Essex, England

Parents:
Job Faulkner.
Ann Victoria Edwards.

[Jimmy]

I know it is normally a boys name but Rodey could be short for.

Births Mar 1863.
FAULKNER Rowland, Dudley, 6c 115.

[Northern Lass]

How about this one

Births Dec 1864 Leary Radey Whitechapel 1c 389
The district Whitechapel spans the boundaries of the counties of London and Middlesex

could she be an orphan the family seemed to take em in

[Annie]

Hi All thank you so much for all the help you have given me I do I appreciate it all.

I have Ann V & Job marriage certificate which took some finding and it is in the name of Forknell, Ann V was Edwards, I also have her marriage certifcate when she married William J Smith and gave Faulkner as her maiden name and it says she is a spinster

So far I have found and bought 4 certificates for the children and Ann V as put Edwards for her maiden name :-
Richard Not found certificate yet - Middlesex
Edward 8 Jan 1863 - Steam Brickworks Southall, Norwood Middlesex
Rodey/Radey - Not a Clue - born Dudley Staffordshire
Job 15 Mar 1865 - Steam Brickworks , Southall, Norwood, Middlesex
John abt 1867 - Steam Brickworks. Southall, Norwood Middlesex
Hannah/Annie/Ann my paternal grandma started off Hannah on the 1st census was Annie Smith when she married also used Annie on her childrens birth & baptisms records and died Ann on her death certificate and grave.
was born abt 1870 Middlesex London .
Thomas abt 1873 no certificate found yet - born in Barrow-in-Furness Lancs
Daniel 3 Dec 1873 - 69 Howard St. Burslem, Wolstanton Stafford
Elizabeth b 6 Mar 1876 at 25 Railway Huts ,Saxelby , Melton Mowbray, Leic and died 22 Nov Same address as birth.

So what a mixed up lot they are and making it very hard going, specially with Faulkner being spelt all ways and different places and name chages from Faulkner to Smith then back to Faulkner

I will give anything a try so will try thr Radey Leary 1864 Whitchapel and also Roland Faulkner, I bought a certificate for a Rhoda Faulkner but the parents were not Job & Ann.

Thank you again for all your help.

Annie

[grangers14]

Are you still on with this Annie or do you want it archiving or sending to brickwalls?
Jo