ARC TBC Hitchman & Horn-Aston, Stourbridge, Wst Brom-

[Pat E]

Hi, I am new to the forum but the Hitchman family that I am interested in has already featured a few years ago. Please see link attached:

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... man-Family

I am researching James Thomas Hitchman (JTH) b. 1869 in Aston, Warwicks. I have a copy of his birth certificate and it shows that his mother was Elizabeth Hitchman, formerly Horn, and his father was William Hitchman, a Spade Tree maker. I also have a copy of JTH's marriage certificate which shows his father was William Hitchman, a handle maker.

I have found birth records for some of who I think are JTH"™s siblings as follows:
Sarah Ann Horn - born to Elizabeth Horn in West Bromwich on 21st Feb 1851 (no father"™s name is given on the birth cert)
John Hitchman Horn - born in West Bromwich in 1852 (info from index, no cert seen)
William Horn Hitchman - born in Aston in 1855 (info from index, no cert seen)
Richard Hitchman - born in Sheffield, Yorks in 1864. I have a copy of his birth certificate that shows that his mother is Elizabeth Hitchman formerly Horn and his father was William Hitchman, Spade Shaft maker.

The family has been traced on the 1861, 71, 81 and 91 census always living in Aston, Warwicks. Although I have been told that JTH spoke with a Sheffield accent!

I am unable to find JTH's parents William Hitchman b. abt 1825 in Stourbridge and Elizabeth Horn b. abt 1827 in Solihull and Sarah Ann Horn, aged one month, on the 1851 census.

I have searched for them individually and as a family as Hitchmans (Hickmans) and Horns and not been able to find them. I did find an Elizabeth Thorn b. 1827, birth place Solihull, on the 1851 census at St Georges Hospital Birmingham. Her occupation is Domestic and she is stated to be married. Could it be her?

Also I can't find the marriage of William Hitchman and Elizabeth Horn.

Any thoughts or advice would be most welcome.

[mallosa]

Hi Pat, welcome to the forum! Looks like we could be related
I have been looking all afternoon to see if I can find a marriage for William & Elizabeth but, like you, found nothing!

Come on guys, lets see if we can help Pat (and of course me)

[peterd]

poss elizabeth might of been married twice ? who that marriage on bcc

[grangers14]

Ive been looking and not come up with anything as yet

The possible marriage on BCC

Poss Marriages Sep 1852
Hitchman William
Marshall Elizabeth
Birmingham 6d 79

Not seen Sarah as that either?

May be a marriage for Horn and Marshall?

[Northern Lass]

Hi Pat E welcome ....do you have the birth certif for James Thomas Hitchman you can post the info ie transcribe
I can add to BCC then.

Would you like your username added in notes that you connect to him?
if so I can do that for you.

and if you have any other certif info we dont have pls do post and I can add that
in notes

[Pat E]

Thanks to you all for your comments. It's great to have your help.
The precise info that I have from JTH's birth certificate is as follows:

Birth of James Thomas Hitchman. Reg district Aston, sub district Duddleston, County Warwick.
born - 16th Oct 1869. Back 10, Brewery Street.
Father - William Hitchman, occupation - Spade Tree Maker. Mother - Elizabeth Hitchman formerly Horn.
Informant - The mark of Elizabeth Hitchman, mother, Back 10, Brewery Street, Aston. Registered 3rd Nov 1869.

I am happy for you to include my user name in the BCC notes. JTH is my g.grandfather.

nb the address of the birth of Sarah Ann Horn (on 21st Feb 1851) was Mares Green and the informant was - The mark of Elizabeth Horn, mother, Mares Green, West Bromwich. The birth was registered on the 8th March 1851.

[sparkstopper]

Searched various sites...found nothing.
As a 'Long Shot'...William could have been
mistranscribed:

Marriages:
Jul/Sept/ 1855 West Bromwich.
WILLIAM HARPER
Thomas Owen
ELIZABETH HORN
Mary Wilkes.

[Northern Lass]

can we pair the couples up?
could be Wm Hitchmann is a Harper? takes fathers name on census?

[Northern Lass]

Thanks to you all for your comments. It's great to have your help.
The precise info that I have from JTH's birth certificate is as follows:

Birth of James Thomas Hitchman. Reg district Aston, sub district Duddleston, County Warwick.
born - 16th Oct 1869. Back 10, Brewery Street.
Father - William Hitchman, occupation - Spade Tree Maker. Mother - Elizabeth Hitchman formerly Horn.
Informant - The mark of Elizabeth Hitchman, mother, Back 10, Brewery Street, Aston. Registered 3rd Nov 1869.

I am happy for you to include my user name in the BCC notes. JTH is my g.grandfather.

nb the address of the birth of Sarah Ann Horn (on 21st Feb 1851) was Mares Green and the informant was - The mark of Elizabeth Horn, mother, Mares Green, West Bromwich. The birth was registered on the 8th March 1851.

Thanks Pat I will sticky this and add info and your name in asap

anyone got any ideas on this one re marriage .....

[mallosa]

I have added the above to BCC - http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... man-Family

Can't get any further forward on this at the moment though

nb the address of the birth of Sarah Ann Horn (on 21st Feb 1851) was Mares Green and the informant was - The mark of Elizabeth Horn, mother, Mares Green, West Bromwich. The birth was registered on the 8th March 1851.

Is there a 'Mares Green' in West Bromwich?

[Northern Lass]

Thanks Mally

[Northern Lass]

So did we ever find them on the census and a marriage?

[Northern Lass]

Name: William Harper
Birth Date: 1834
Age: 21
Spouse's Name: Elisabeth Horn
Spouse's Birth Date: 1835
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 20
Event Date: 16 Jul 1855
Event Place: Moxley,Stafford,England
Father's Name: Thomas Harper
Spouse's Father's Name: William Horn
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M16725-2
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 1040772
Reference ID:


dont think it is this one cos of dobs?
would be interesting to look it up see occup of Wm.

[Northern Lass]

poss bapt
Name: Elizabeth Horn
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 02 Mar 1829
Christening Place: SOLIHULL,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Thomas Horn
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01075-3
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 0234507-508
Reference ID:

[Northern Lass]

Dont think it is this one ...see notes on Bcc
age out name out etc


Poss Marriages Sep 1852
Hitchman William
Marshall Elizabeth
Birmingham 6d 79
Name: William Hitchman
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Marshall
Event Date: 10 Jul 1852
Event Place: Saint Martin,Birmingham,Warwick,England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01072-4
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 0919783-0919785, 0919786-0919788, 0919789-0919791
Reference ID: