COMPLETED..............Joseph Lilley b abt 1826 father James

[Northern Lass]

Can we find him on 1841 pls
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... d=36349730


need bapt for him too and any sibs
and marriage of parents

[Jimmy]

1841. Woodside, Dudley, Worcs.
James Lilly 50. Nailer.
Joseph Lilly 18. Nailer.

Both b.i.c.

Can't see a baptism.

[Jimmy]

1851. Woodside, Dudley, Worcs.
Joseph Lilley 27. Nailer. Nailer.
Anne Lilley 29.
Joseph Lilley 3. Son.
James Lilley 10 Mo. Son.
Anna Lilley 13. Niece.

All born Woodside.


Looks like niece Anna.
1841. Woodside, Dudley, Worcs.
James Lilley 20. Coal miner.
Martha Lilley 20.
Ann Lilley 4.
Ruth Lilley 5 Mo.

All b.i.c.

James Lilley.
bride's name: Martha Round.
marriage date: 25 Jan 1836.
marriage place: Saint Thomas,Dudley,Worcester.
indexing project (batch) number: M04014-3.
system origin: England-ODM.
source film number: 378771, 378772, 378773, 378774, 378775, 378776, 378777.

James and Martha on BCC,

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ley-Family

[Northern Lass]

martha and ann are sibs

but do Joseph Lilley and James connect?
if so how?

[Jimmy]

If Anna Lilley 13. Niece.(1851) is the same as Ann Lilley 4. (1841) then Joseph and James are brothers,

[Northern Lass]

If Anna Lilley 13. Niece.(1851) is the same as Ann Lilley 4. (1841) then Joseph and James are brothers,

not necessarily
cos Martha Round and Ann Round are sisters

martha marries James Lilley

and

Ann marries Joseph Lilley

therefore Ann niece is niece cos Marth and Ann Round are sibs

[Jimmy]

It could also be two brothers marrying two sister.

[Northern Lass]

It could also be two brothers marrying two sister.

Yes could be but I cant tie them up as brothers yet.

both seem to have father James but huge age gap and I cant find Josephs bapt

[Northern Lass]

James Lilley married to Martha Round has father I think a James and mother Ruth
found bapt 1814
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =487369161

Joseph Lilley married to Ann Round has father James and is on 1841 we think and James on marriage--Joseph b abt 1824
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... d=36349730



James snr with Joseph is born abt 1790


1841. Woodside, Dudley, Worcs.
James Lilly 50. Nailer.
Joseph Lilly 18. Nailer.
Both b.i.c.

so not sure if bros yet

when did James and Ruth marry?

[Northern Lass]

groom's name: James Lilley
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Ruth Lavender
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 18 Apr 1802
marriage place: Kingswinford,Stafford,England
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M05373-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 417203
reference number:

[Northern Lass]

James snr needs to be born around 1780

the one on 1841 is c1790-85

[Jimmy]

1861. Woodside, Dudley.
Benjamin Lilly 48.
Elizabeth Lilly 59.
Edward Lilly 15.
James Lilly 83. Lodger. Widow.

Next door,
Benjamin Round 22. Labourer.
Ann Maria Round 19.

All born Woodside.

[Jimmy]

1851. Woodside, Dudley.
James Lilley 69. Widow. Nailer.
Phebe Biggs 46. Widow.
Roger Plant 16. Son. Father is James Lilley on census.
David Biggs 14. Son. Father is James Lilley on census.

All born Dudley.

[Northern Lass]

Ok that works for Benjamin having parents James and ruth
and then he is witness on Josephs marriage

name: Benjn. Lilley
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 22 Aug 1813
baptism/christening place: SAINT THOMAS,DUDLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: James Lilley
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Ruth
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C04014-3
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 378765, 378766, 378767
reference number:

[Northern Lass]

struggling with this

do we think that this James here b abt 1791

1841. Woodside, Dudley, Worcs.
James Lilly 50. Nailer.
Joseph Lilly 18. Nailer.
Both b.i.c.

is the same James as here

1851. Woodside, Dudley.
James Lilley 69. Widow. Nailer.
Phebe Biggs 46. Widow.
Roger Plant 16. Son.
David Biggs 14. Son.

and here..

1861. Woodside, Dudley.
Benjamin Lilly 48.
Elizabeth Lilly 59.
Edward Lilly 15.
James Lilly 83. Lodger. Widow.

Next door,
Benjamin Round 22. Labourer.
Ann Maria Round 19.

All born Woodside.