Rose to Cutler to Armstrong connection

[mumbles]

This William Cutler and Susannah Rose
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =318829778

1851 Census
Langley Green, Oldbury Worcs.
William Culler 45 - Boat man
Susannah Culler 44
John Culler 19 - Boat man
Hannah Culler 18 - Nailor
Martha Culler 15 - Nailor
William Culler 13
Emma Culler 9
Abel Culler 7
all born Langley Worcs.
Cutler on original

Looks like this William Cutler

1841 Census Woodgate Northfield Worcs.
William Cutler 35
Susannah Cutler 35
Eliza Cutler dau 15
Sarah Cutler
Obedience Cutler 13 born in county
John Cutler 10 born in county
Hannah Cutler 8
Martha Cutler 6
William Cutler 4
Rest not born in County

Susannah appears to marry a John Armstrong Christ Church West Bromwich 1857

1861 Census Parsonage Street Oldbury West Bromwich Staffs.
Susannah Armstrong Head 55 (m) Laundress
Emily Cutler Laundress 19 Laundress
Abel Cutler son 17 Glass Polisher
All born Halesowen Worcs.

[MarkCDodd]

I believe this is part of Prof Dennis Wood's family.

This William Cutler has Obedience Wood as his mother.

His father was John Cutler born abt 1767 in Halesowen.

John Cutler married Obedience Wood on the 14th March 1792 at Halesowen.

Bede is sometimes used as a nichname for Obedience.

There are three William Cutler deaths in the West Brom district between 1851 and 1857.

The only burial I can find is this one.

Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 - Burial

First name(s): William
Last name CUTLER
Date of burial: 11 Jan 1852
Age at death: 41
Calculated year of birth: 1811
Place of burial: Halesowen
Dedication: St John Baptist
County: Worcestershire
Notes:
Halesowen St John Baptist
Denomination: Anglican
Coverage: 1579 - 1854
Number of entries 21,235
Record source: National Burial Index
Data provider: Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry

There is a user submitted tree on FamilySearch.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/SRZ8-X7D

[mumbles]

Yes Mark,
And he has John Armstrong on tree also but has not William Cutler or Susannah Rose

[MarkCDodd]

This confirms the marriage.

groom's name: John Armstrong
groom's birth date: 1806
groom's birthplace:
groom's age: 51
bride's name: Susannah Cutler
bride's birth date: 1807
bride's birthplace:
bride's age: 50
marriage date: 1857
marriage place: West Bromwich, Stafford, Eng.
groom's father's name: John Armstrong
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: Joseph Rose
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M05521-3
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1526219
reference number: 2:3QQ0MKN

[MarkCDodd]

On Dennis' Ancestry Tree he has William Cutler marrying Susannah Rose but not much more info.

He has a John Armstrong born abt 1806 in Cumberland who moves to Smethwick between 1832 and 1836 with wife Jane and children.

This is John Armstrong's first marriage.

groom's name: John Armstrong
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Jane Kennedy
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 06 Jul 1828
marriage place: Stanwix, Cumberland, England
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: I03765-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1472284
reference number: item 42 p 9

[MarkCDodd]

This is John and family in 1851.

1851 census transcription details for: Popes Lane


National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2024
Folio: 497
Page: 22
Reg. District: West Bromwich
Sub District: Oldbury
Parish:
Enum. District: 3G
Ecclesiastical District: Oldbury
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Popes Lane
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
ARMSTRONG, John Head Married M 45 1806 Ag Lab Abbey Lanercott, Cumberland
ARMSTRONG, Jane Wife Married F 47 1804 Stanwix, Cumberland
ARMSTRONG, William Son Unmarried M 22 1829 Glass Maker Newton, Cumberland
ARMSTRONG, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 19 1832 At Home Newton, Cumberland
ARMSTRONG, James Son Unmarried M 15 1836 Smethwick, Staffordshire
ARMSTRONG, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 13 1838 Employed At Home Smethwick, Staffordshire
ARMSTRONG, John Son Unmarried M 11 1840 Scholar Smethwick, Staffordshire
ARMSTRONG, Joseph Son Unmarried M 9 1842 Scholar Smethwick, Staffordshire
ARMSTRONG, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 6 1845 Smethwick, Staffordshire
ARMSTRONG, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 2 1849 Oldbury, Worcestershire

[MarkCDodd]

There is one Jane Armstrong whose death is registered in West Brom between 1851 and 1857.

Civil Registration event: Death

Name: ARMSTRONG, Jane
Registration district: West Bromwich
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1853
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Volume no: 6B
Page no: 306

[mumbles]

Thanks Mark
I will add and tie up over weekend

[Northern Lass]

ok to archive?

[mumbles]

Ok NL