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ARC TBC - Benjamin Morton, 1836 - ????

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I have gleaned a lot of information about my great great grandfather, Benjamin Morton, but I have reached the proverbial "brickwall" about the latter years of his life. He was born in Ocker Hill, Tipton in 1836 (baptised 7 February "“ the son of Samuel Morton and Mary Duffell), married Ann Elizabeth Evans (Darlaston, 8 March 1857), lived in West Bromwich and worked in the iron works, up to and including the 1871 census. I cannot find him in any subsequent censuses though his wife and children were living without him in Cradley (1881), Dudley (1891), and Oldbury (1901 and 1911). It appears Ben was a shopkeeper in Dudley in 1872/3 when 3 of their children died and another was born. He was an inn keeper in Oldbury between about 1874 to 1879 (including being cited as a drunken juryman in the Worcester Journal, January 1877), but then I lose him!

He was named in his father"™s will (dated January 1887) and his wife lists herself as a widow in 1901 and 1911 censuses. A family letter (dated September 1880) mentions him having left his wife, though very oddly Ann"™s gravestone inscription (Rood End,1912) says "beloved wife of Benjamin Morton". So did they get back together again? I have hunted the censuses for him from 1881 to 1901 without luck, and even the closest death certificate (West Bromwich Q4 1898) was the wrong person. Can anyone help please?
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Re: Benjamin Morton, 1836 - ????

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Hi have you searched for spelling variations? I have a Worton who's Marriage Cert is wrongly recorded as Morton. The references to Widow & Loving Wife could just be a case of acting out an appearance of respectability.

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Re: Benjamin Morton, 1836 - ????

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Civil Registration event: Death

Name: MORTON, Benjamin
Registration district: Stone
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1890
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 55
Volume no: 6B
Page no: 14

Civil Registration event: Death

Name: MORTON, Benjamin
Registration district: Halifax
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1900
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 65
Volume no: 9A
Page no: 338

Civil Registration event: Death

Name: MORTEN, Benjamin
Registration district: Eton
County: Buckinghamshire
Year of registration: 1894
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 57
Volume no: 3A
Page no: 318
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Re: Benjamin Morton, 1836 - ????

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Hi this is him on Bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... 688609880d

Do you have the full marriage info you can post for us pls and we can add to Bcc :grin:
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Re: Benjamin Morton, 1836 - ????

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8 Mar 1857 St Lawrence Darlaston
Benjamin MORETON 21 B Roller Dudley Street Father Samuel Moreton Puddler
Elizabeth Ann EVANS 19 S Catherine`s Cross Father Joseph Evans Saddler
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; Ambrose Smith / Mary Ann Smith
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Re: Benjamin Morton, 1836 - ????

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rockyfowler wrote:8 Mar 1857 St Lawrence Darlaston
Benjamin MORETON 21 B Roller Dudley Street Father Samuel Moreton Puddler
Elizabeth Ann EVANS 19 S Catherine`s Cross Father Joseph Evans Saddler
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; Ambrose Smith / Mary Ann Smith
:wink:


Thanks Rf :wink:
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Re: Benjamin Morton, 1836 - ????

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7 Feb 1836 St Martin Tipton
Benjamin Son of Samuel & Mary MORETON from Summer Hill Occupation Puddler
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Re: Benjamin Morton, 1836 - ????

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Thanks RF

Bries if you have any more info we could add to Benjamin on the tree do let us know :wink:
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Re: Benjamin Morton, 1836 - ????

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bries wrote:I have gleaned a lot of information about my great great grandfather, Benjamin Morton, but I have reached the proverbial "brickwall" about the latter years of his life. He was born in Ocker Hill, Tipton in 1836 (baptised 7 February "“ the son of Samuel Morton and Mary Duffell), married Ann Elizabeth Evans (Darlaston, 8 March 1857), lived in West Bromwich and worked in the iron works, up to and including the 1871 census. I cannot find him in any subsequent censuses though his wife and children were living without him in Cradley (1881), Dudley (1891), and Oldbury (1901 and 1911). It appears Ben was a shopkeeper in Dudley in 1872/3 when 3 of their children died and another was born. He was an inn keeper in Oldbury between about 1874 to 1879 (including being cited as a drunken juryman in the Worcester Journal, January 1877), but then I lose him!

He was named in his father"™s will (dated January 1887) and his wife lists herself as a widow in 1901 and 1911 censuses. A family letter (dated September 1880) mentions him having left his wife, though very oddly Ann"™s gravestone inscription (Rood End,1912) says "beloved wife of Benjamin Morton". So did they get back together again? I have hunted the censuses for him from 1881 to 1901 without luck, and even the closest death certificate (West Bromwich Q4 1898) was the wrong person. Can anyone help please?


On the childrens marriage for any of them is he down as deceased at any point?
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Re: Benjamin Morton, 1836 - ????

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Deaths Dec 1898
Morton Benjamin 68 W. Bromwich 6b 540
so this was the one you ordered and is incorrect..

This one age bit out and area?

1902
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
MORETON Benjamin Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/096/41

Deaths Dec 1902
MORETON Benjamin 72 Stourbridge 6c 107
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Re: Benjamin Morton, 1836 - ????

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Thanks to all of you who replied so quickly!
linell - I'd never though of trying Worton - obvious now - so I'll see what I can find.
markcdodd - the Stone one isn't him (from probate search), and the other 2 seem a bit far away though I will follow up.
rockyfowler - these are the details I have.
northernlass - I'm new to the forum (!) - can I edit the bcc page for Morton or do you have to do it? As for "deceased" at children's marriages, only a couple of the children survived to marriage age, but I've just found one (Joseph Albert Morton) married at St Edmunds, Dudley 31 March 1902 - so the parish reg is on my "to do" list. Yes, the Dec 1898 W Brom death was the wrong one (wrong age, wrong wife!!).
Thanks again!
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Re: Benjamin Morton, 1836 - ????

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MarkCDodd wrote:Civil Registration event: Death

Name: MORTON, Benjamin
Registration district: Stone
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1890
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 55
Volume no: 6B
Page no: 14


This one looks like he was a Farmer, in the probate records.
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Re: Benjamin Morton, 1836 - ????

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bries wrote:Thanks to all of you who replied so quickly!
linell - I'd never though of trying Worton - obvious now - so I'll see what I can find.
markcdodd - the Stone one isn't him (from probate search), and the other 2 seem a bit far away though I will follow up.
rockyfowler - these are the details I have.
northernlass - I'm new to the forum (!) - can I edit the bcc page for Morton or do you have to do it? As for "deceased" at children's marriages, only a couple of the children survived to marriage age, but I've just found one (Joseph Albert Morton) married at St Edmunds, Dudley 31 March 1902 - so the parish reg is on my "to do" list. Yes, the Dec 1898 W Brom death was the wrong one (wrong age, wrong wife!!).
Thanks again!


Yes I have to edit Bcc

I can slot your name in the notes on Benjamin if you like that you connect to him.

if you post the other info you have or what needs editing I will try and amend/do :wink:
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Re: Benjamin Morton, 1836 - ????

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is Joseph Albert b abt 1873 do you have the full birth certif info pls


This is a late marriage
1902
MORTON Joseph A CASH Florence Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/010/131

I am adding that marriage info courtesy of Rockyfowler to Bcc now save you looking it up :wink:
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Re: Benjamin Morton, 1836 - ????

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Note on marriage he is not down as deceased which is interesting as I think St Edmunds is one of those
they leave name of father off if deceased and just put deceased .....RF is that correct?

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =404623903
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