ARC TBC.Tonkiss to Siviter to Powell connection ?

[mumbles]

This Phoebe Siviter added by Suki
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =504268068
appears to marry again :-

POWELLThomasTUNKINPhoebeHalesowen, St John the BaptistDudley Register Office014/002/252 1855

1851 Census Wilkes Fold Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Phoebe Tonkiss Head 27 (wid) Nail Maker
Sarah Tonkiss dau 8
Elizabeth Tonkiss dau 6
Thomas Tonkiss son 4 School
William Tonkiss son 2

Rowley Parish records show John Tonkiss and Phoebe as Witnesses at wedding
1/12/1845 William Siviter 19 b Nailer of Old Hill son of William a Nailer & Elizabeth Powell sp. dau of William Rock a Nailer by Banns

so John was alive in 1845 and William probably her brother

1861 Census Garratts Lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Thomas Powell Head 35 Coal Miner
Phoebe Powell 39 Nailor
Sarah Tomkiss dau.in.law (U) 19 Nailor
Elizabeth Tomkiss dau.in.law (U) 17 Nailor
Thomas Tomkiss son.in.law 13 Coal miner
William Tomkiss son. in.law 11 Coal Miner
Susan Powell dau 9
James Powell son 1
John Tomkiss boarder 1
All born Rowley Regis Staffs.

1871 Census Garratts Lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Thomas Powell Head 44 Coal Miner
Sarah Powell wife 46
Susannah Powell dau 19 Nail Maker
Emily Powell dau 1
Charles Kirkham son.in.law 20 ( looks like 30 on orig.) Nail Maker
Sarah Kirkham dau 28
Sarah A. Kirkham grd.dau 5
All born Rowley Regis

KIRKHAMCharlesTOMKISSSarah Dudley, St EdmundDudley Register Office201/003/469 1861

Thomas appears to have married again

Possible marriage :-
POWELLThomasSTARKEYSarah ADudley, St ThomasDudley Register Office204/023/390 1865

1881 Census 55 Garratts Lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Thomas Powell Head 59 Coal Miner born Rowley Regis
Susannah Powell wife 57 born Rowley Regis
Charles Kirkham lodger/Head 57 Coal Miner
Sarah Kirkham wife 39 Nailer
Joseph Kirkham son 10
Edward Kirkham son 5 born Rowley Regis
Rest born Old Hill Staffs.

Ages all wrong but right family and Thomas appears to have married again but cannot find marriage

Joseph Kirkham aged 10 went on to marry Emma Skitt

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =773890004

[Jimmy]

POWELLThomasTUNKINPhoebeHalesowen, St John the BaptistDudley Register Office014/002/252 1855.

A bit odd Thomas Powell as a father William Rock.

WOR. Halesowen. St Johns. 27. 126. 252.
25 Dec 1855.
Thomas POWELL. 24. bachelor. miner. Hill. William ROCK. nailer.
Phoebe TUNKISS. 29. widow. nailer. Hill. William SIVITER. nailer.

Richard SIVITER. Rosanna SIVITER.

[Northern Lass]

Phebe and William Siviter sibs here
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =884416015

put marriages for look up mumbles

it is an odd one that Elizabeth Powell
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =421727745

we have chased this prev and no wiser nightmare!

[mumbles]

Three marriages posted NL

[Northern Lass]

excellent would be good to connect this lot up

[mumbles]

25/12/1855 St.John Halesowen
Thomas Powell Bach. 24 miner father William Rock Nailer
Phoebe Tunkiss wid 29 father William Siviter Nailer
Witnesses :- Richard Siviter & Rosanna Siviter

[mumbles]

There goes William Rock again now father of Thomas Powell and Elizabeth Powell

[Jimmy]

1841. Garratts Lane, Rowley Regis, Staffs.
William Rock 48. Nailer.
Mary Rock 46.
Hannah Rock 16.
Elizabeth Rock 14.
William Rock 12.
Thomas Rock 10.
Mary Rock 8.
John Rock 6.
Eliza Rock 4.

All born in county.

[mumbles]

Great Jimmy
but why did children change to Powell ?

[Jimmy]

1851. Garratts Lane, Rowley Regis, Staffs.
William Rocke 60. Nailer.
Mary Rocke 56.
William Rocke 26. Son.
Thomas Rocke 24. Son. Coal miner.
John Rocke 19. Son.
Eliza Rocke 15. Dau.

All born Rowley Regis.

[Jimmy]

I can't see a Thomas Powell in 1841 0r 1851.

[Jimmy]

Perhaps Mary is Mary Powell who never married William Rock.

Mary Powell.
gender: Female.
burial date: 10 Feb 1856.
burial place: Rowley Regis, Stafford.
age: 56.
birth date: 1800.
indexing project (batch) number: B02941-7.
system origin: England-EASy.
source film number: 367801.
reference number: p157 rn1251.

William Rock.
burial date: 13 Feb 1859.
burial place: Rowley Regis, Stafford.
age: 65.
birth date: 1794.
indexing project (batch) number: B01836-5.
system origin: England-EASy.
source film number: 367784.
reference number: p 255 n 2038.

[Northern Lass]

I have just connected up Thomas here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =825710946

can we slot in William Rock then and Mary Powell do you think instead of Unknowns?

[mumbles]

I think Jimmy is right about William Rock and Mary

[Northern Lass]

I agree and solves that mystery

just out of curiosity before we archive this

are there any bapts for the kids
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =825710946

to see if bapt as rock or powell