*Arch tbc* -Siviter-Green connection

[mumbles]

Whilst inserting Wellings/Green/Harper details I noticed another possible connection:-
Holly has inserted a Samuel Siviter born 1858 RR and I have a Samuel Siviter born 1857 RR who married an Ann Green b.1860 RR daughter of William & Ann Green who connect to Wellings and Harper lines
Samuel Siviter inserted by Holly was son of William Siviter b.1839 RR and Phoebe Westwood b.1839 RR

[mumbles]

Found two Samuel Siviters born c. 1857/1858 RR
One married an Harriett Priest and one married Ann Green in 1877 Halesowen St. John Dudley reg. 014/004/300

[linell]

Well done Mumbles that sorts that query then. linell.

[mumbles]

Not quite sorted Linell as I cannot determine wether your Samuel Siviter married Ann Green or Harriett Priest. There is only one year in difference ref. dates of birth on BMD and yours and mine. i.e. Mine is noted as born 1857 RR and yours is born 1857 RR

[FarSide]

You may already have these
1881
14 New Street, Rowley
Ann Siveter 21 - Head - Married - Nail maker
Mary A. Siveter 2
both b Rowley

next door
William Green 51 - Horse nailmaker
Ann Green 49 - Horse nailmaker
Joseph Green 30 - Horse nailmaker
George Green 17 - Coalminer
Robert Green 16 - Nailmaker
Sylvia Green 15 - Nailmaker
Sarah Green 10
Thomas Green 8
Emmanuel Green 6
all b Rowley

1891
68 Pear Tree Street, Rowley
Samuel Seviter 34 - Coal miner
Ann Seviter 31 - Nail maker
Mary A Seviter 12
William Green 61 - Father in law - formerly Nail maker
Sarah Green 20 - sis in law - Brickmaker
Thomas Green 18 - bro in law - Rivetmaker
Emmanuel Green 16 - bro in law - Rivetmaker
all b Rowley

1881
92 Halesowen Road, Rowley
Samuel Siviter 23 - Collier Engineer Tender?
Harriet Siviter 21
both b Rowley

1891 (def Siviter)
188
Wrights Lane, Rowley
Samuel Swiler 31 - Colliery Engine Driver
Harriet Swiler 30
Ellen Swiler 9
Ernest Swiler 6
George Swiler 5
Fred Swiler 1
all b Rowley

[FarSide]

and these
1871 (def Siviter)
185
Wagon Street, Rowley
Samuel Suiter 45 - Coalminer
Mary Suiter 40 - Nailmaker
Selina Suiter 20 - Nailmaker
Joseph Suiter 20 - Leasther?
Samuel Suiter 15 - Coalminer
Sarah Suiter 12 - Nailmaker
John Suiter 10
Benjamin Suiter 6
Elizabeth Suiter 4
David Suiter 1

next door
186
Richard Suiter 43 - Coalminer
Rosanna Suiter 43 - Nailmaker
Richard Suiter 15 - Coalminer
Rosanna Suiter 13
John Suiter 10
William Suiter 4
Sarah Suiter 3 weeks
all b Rowley


1871
141
Waterfall Lane, Rowley
William Siviter 33 - Colliery Engine Driver
Pheobe Siviter 33
Samuel Siviter 13
Joseph Siviter 11
Elizabeth Siviter 5
Netty Siviter 3
George Siviter 1
all b Rowley

Next door
140
Samuel Siviter 45 - Miner
Leah Siviter 65
Joseph Westmore 19 - gd son
all b Rowley

at 143
Joseph Siviter 31 - Miner
Jemmima Siviter 28
Eliza Siviter 9
William Siviter 7
Samuel Siviter 5
Mary A Siviter 3
James Siviter 5
all b Rowley

[Northern Lass]

and these
1871 (def Siviter)
185
Wagon Street, Rowley
Samuel Suiter 45 - Coalminer
Mary Suiter 40 - Nailmaker
Selina Suiter 20 - Nailmaker
Joseph Suiter 20 - Leasther?
Samuel Suiter 15 - Coalminer
Sarah Suiter 12 - Nailmaker
John Suiter 10
Benjamin Suiter 6
Elizabeth Suiter 4
David Suiter 1



1871
141
Waterfall Lane, Rowley
William Siviter 33 - Colliery Engine Driver
Pheobe Siviter 33
Samuel Siviter 13
Joseph Siviter 11
Elizabeth Siviter 5
Netty Siviter 3
George Siviter 1
all b Rowley

Looks to me that cos of occupations
Samuel Siviter Coalminer has parents Samuel Siviter and Mary ?
he married Ann Green

and

Samuel Siviter Colliery engine driver has parents William Siviter and Pheobe Westwood and married Harriet ?

I can check marriages....min

1891 (def Siviter)
188
Wrights Lane, Rowley
Samuel Swiler 31 - Colliery Engine Driver
Harriet Swiler 30
Ellen Swiler 9
Ernest Swiler 6
George Swiler 5
Fred Swiler 1
all b Rowley

1891
68 Pear Tree Street, Rowley
Samuel Seviter 34 - Coal miner
Ann Seviter 31 - Nail maker
Mary A Seviter 12
William Green 61 - Father in law - formerly Nail maker
Sarah Green 20 - sis in law - Brickmaker
Thomas Green 18 - bro in law - Rivetmaker
Emmanuel Green 16 - bro in law - Rivetmaker
all b Rowley

[Northern Lass]

Ok so this one..

1880
SIVITER Samuel PRIEST Harriet Cradley Heath, St Luke Sandwell Register Office 20/1/414
- Is this Samuel a Colliery engine driver and does he have a father William Siviter (and ma Pheobe Westwood )

and

1877
SIVITER Samuel GREEN Ann Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/004/300
-is this Samuel a Coalminer and does he have a father Samuel Siviter (and a ma Mary )

will add to look ups

wot do you think does that make sense cos of occups?

[mumbles]

Look ups should sort it Nl and you have right occupations.

[Northern Lass]

Ok well we can archive this now pend look ups and I will bring back to the board with info

[linell]

Many thanks NL will wait to see what the look ups have to offer, best wishes from linell.

[Northern Lass]

Ok so this one..

1880
SIVITER Samuel PRIEST Harriet Cradley Heath, St Luke Sandwell Register Office 20/1/414
- Is this Samuel a Colliery engine driver and does he have a father William Siviter (and ma Pheobe Westwood )

and

1877
SIVITER Samuel GREEN Ann Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/004/300
-is this Samuel a Coalminer and does he have a father Samuel Siviter (and a ma Mary )

will add to look ups

wot do you think does that make sense cos of occups?

Have done both these look ups will post one tonite and one tomoz.....cliff hanger!

Samuel who married Harriet is the one with father William Siviter
the Samuel who married Ann Green has father Samuel Siviter a collier

here is the first one
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =265866719

[linell]

Many thanks for that NL. This family do have loads of connections. Best Wishes Linell.

[Northern Lass]

No problem Linell....

Ok here is the last one...Samuel Siviter and Ann Green
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =694014678

[Northern Lass]

Can we find a marriage for Samuel Siviter and mary unknown?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =490921883