ARC..... Possible Pearsall/ Danks/ Southall connection

[sp1]

I think this George Pearsall b 1873:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... all-Family

married Agnes Louisa Danks b abt 1874 (Netherton) 1897 St Johns, Kates Hill (Dudley Register Office 203/007/309). She was the daughter of Edward Danks b abt 1828 Cinderbank, Netherton & Jane: this looks like their marriage - 1850 St Martin, Tipton (Sandwell Register Office 39/6/154) Edward Danks & Jane Wilkes.
I suspect, but cannot be sure without lookup, that this is Edward on BCC:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... nks-Family

A son of Edward & Jane Danks, Samuel b abt 1866 Cinder Bank, Netherton, married Ann Southall - she is on BCC here:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... all-Family
Samuel and 'Annie' were my Grandmothers aunt and uncle - they married 1891 St Giles, Rowley Regis.

[sp1]

Going back to George Pearsall for a moment........
his sister Ellen married James Webb here:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ebb-Family
notice that the marriage witnesses were.........George Pearsall & Agnes Danks!

I think James Webb's mother on BCC may be incorrect: had a quick look on @ncestry and someone has his father Jacob married twice:
14 Nov 1852, St Giles, Rowley Regis, to Harriet Blacker (b abt 1834 Poulton, Somerset) - she is given as James mother.
Second marriage 1880 St Martin, Tipton, to Mary Ann Lawrence.
Haven't really looked at this, but it looks plausible.

[sp1]

Looking at William Pearsall for a moment:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... all-Family

the birthplace for him and his children in 1861 & 1871 census is given as Netherton.
I can see two possible marriages on WestMids BMD:

1852 St Martin, Tipton William Pearsall/ SUSANNA Harris (Sandwell Register Office 39/6/359)
1855 All Saints, Sedgley William Pearsall/ HANNAH Russon (Dudley Register Office 216/009/84)
Obviously the birthdate for their daughter Elizabeth (abt 1853, Netherton - from 1871 census: she is not with her parents in 1861 for some reason) confuses the issue - wonder if the age given on census is correct? (Can anyone see her in 1861?)
Williams wife, Hannah, from the census, was born abt 1832, Netherton, which may help determine the correct marriage?

[sp1]

Possible 1851 census for William Pearsall:

1851, Hurst(?), Dudley
William Pearsall, H, Wid, 69, Coal Miner
William, son, 18
Nancy, dau, 16
All b Dudley

Next door:
Daniel Pearsall, H, 34, Coal Miner
Sarah, Wife, 29
Phoebe, dau, 9
Thos, son, 7
Saml, son, 5
Elizth, dau, 2
Thos Stevens, nephew, unm, 17, Brick Maker

And next door to them!
Job Stevens, 58
Srah, wife, 56
Job, son, 20
Hannah, dau, 14
Sarah Robinson, aunt, wid, 87, Pauper, Nailer

It looks like the older William Pearsall is still alive in 1861, living alone, aged 79, widower, living at Level, Woodside, birthplace given as Level.

This is starting to look complicated - I'm going to bed!

[rockyfowler]

18 Nov 1850 St Martin Tipton
Edward DANKS 22 B Miner Union Street Father William Danks Miner
Jane WILKES 19 S Wood Street Father Thomas Wilkes
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; Thomas Shorthouse / William Crossley?

[rockyfowler]

10 May 1891 St Giles Rowley Regis
Samuel DANKS 25 B Labourer Rowley Regis Father Edward Danks Labourer
Annie SOUTHALL 19 S Rowley Regis Father Henry Southall Labourer
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; William Herler? / Sarah Southall

[Northern Lass]

are you Ok on this or do you need us to connect?

I got to log off now but JO will be around

[sp1]

are you Ok on this or do you need us to connect?

I got to log off now but JO will be around

If you or Jo could connect (still have difficulty with that!) I will add in children.

[grangers14]

I will just look through now.
Jo

[Northern Lass]

Thanks Jo I started a Jacob webb thread but not time to sort that either

[sp1]

Possible baptism for Jane Wilkes:
11 Nov 1832 St Thomas, Dudley, d of Thomas Wilkes & Phebe

There is another one born 15 April 1839, bapt 19 May 1838 d of Thomas & Mary
(both ODM)

Can't see any other, so the 1832 one looks likely - will have a look at census in a while.

[grangers14]

I have added some will carry on tomorrow

Pricilla
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ock-Family
1851. Cinder Bank, Dudley.
Pricilla Danks, head, 51, Rowley
Eliza, daur, um, 26,
William, son, 16, Stone Miner
/Edward Danks, head, 22, Stone Miner
Jane, wife, 20
All others born Dudley

Edward
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... nks-Family
1861. Dudley Road, Dudley.
Edward Danks, head, 33, Coal Miner
Jane, wife, 30,
Caroline, daur, 9,
Mary Jane, daur, 7,
Tilston, son, 10 months
All born Dudley

1871. 13, Cinder Bank, Dudley
Edward Danks, head, 43, Coal Miner
Jane, wife, 40, Dudley
Caroline, daur, 19, Domestic serv,
William J? Son, 7,
Samuel, son, 5,
All others born Cinder Bank


1881. 13 Cinder Bank, Dudley
Edward Danks, head, 52, Bricklayers Labourer
Jane, wife, 50,
Caroline, daur, 29,
William, son, 17, Labourer in Iron works
Samuel, son, 15, Labourer in Iron Works
Agnes L, daur, 8,
Annie, daur, 6,
Emma, daur, 4

1891. 59 Cinder Bank, Dudley
Edward Danks, head, 62, Bricklayers labourer
Jane, wife, 60,
Samuel, son, 25, Pottery Labourer
Agnes, 18, Dress Maker
Annie, daur, 17,
Emma, daur, 15, Boot binder
All born Netherton

1901. Cinder Bank, Dudley
Edward Danks, head, 74, Bricklayers lab,
Jane, wife, 72,
Thomas Harris, boarder, 26, Waggoner,
Edward Danks, g. Son, 9
All born Dudley

1911
See son in law George Pearsall (Not added info inn for this family yet)

Marriage Looked up by RF
18 Nov 1850 St Martin Tipton
Edward DANKS 22 B Miner Union Street Father William Danks Miner
Jane WILKES 19 S Wood Street Father Thomas Wilkes
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; Thomas Shorthouse / William Crossley?

[sp1]

Jo
I have connected up George Pearsall and added 1901& 1911 census.

Have also added children and 1901 census for Samuel Danks/ Ann Southall - I have not been able to find any of them in 1911, but they must have been alive as my grandmother knew them, and she wasn't born until 1915!

[sp1]

Possible for Jane Wilkes:

1841 Dudley, Birmingham Street:
Thos Wilkes, 35, Moulder
Phebe, 30
Ann, 12
Jane, 10
Thos, 8
Sarah, 9 mo
All born in County

1851 Old Mill Street, Dudley
Thomas Wilkes, Head, 48, Lab
Phebe, Wife, 47
Thomas H, Son, 17, Labourer
Sarah, Dau, 10
James, Son, 6
John, Son, 4
All born Dudley

Note that Jane is not with them -if this is the correct family she would have been married in 1850

1861, Queens Cross, Dudley
Phebe Wilkes, Head, Mar, 57, Fruiterer
Sarah, Dau, 20, Unm
John, Son, Unm, 14, Labourer
Richard Wilkes, Grand-son, 3mon
All born Dudley

[rockyfowler]

29 Aug 1897 St John The Evangelist Kates Hill
George PEARSALL 24 B Fitter Netherton Father William Pearsall Miner
Agnes Louisa DANKS 24 S Netherton Father Edward Danks Bricklayer
Wit; Benjamin Grundy? / Esther Clayton