ARC TBC............Joseph Hill b abt 1823 RR

[Northern Lass]

I think this Joseph here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =981804540

may be father of the Ann M Hill b 1860 that Mally is running with
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =559092103

but not sure yet

what I am stuck on is in 1881 they have a Mary Parish visitor with them
1881 Withymoor Road Dudley
Joseph Hill head married 58 spade finisher b Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Hill wife 48 Dudley
Ann Maria Hill dau unm 20
Elizabeth Hill dau unm 18
Mary Parish visitor W 77
all others born Dudley

my query is there is this marriage
1845
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HILL Joseph PARISH Elizabeth West Bromwich, All Saints Sandwell Register Office 22/3/46


but the Elizabeth wife in 1881 is coming out dob abt 1833 and same in 1871

is this Josephs 1st marriage?

can someone post census for Joseph hill pls going back

[Northern Lass]

I wondered if this is the marriage
1853
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HILL Joseph WHITEHOUSE Elizabeth Kingswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 213/003/114


quite a few Whitehouses near them on 1881

[Northern Lass]

and does Elizabeth connect here with James as his sister?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =778915244

[Northern Lass]

poss sister
1869
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
SMART Samuel WHITEHOUSE Mary S Dudley, St James Dudley Register Office 202/005/320

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =775532834

[Northern Lass]

Connected up Ann Maria Hill here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =151140934

can someone see what they think can't see another born Dudley that year

need Joseph Hill in 1851 and 1841 pls

[Jimmy]

1851. Mousesweet Brook, Rowley Regis.
Joseph Hill 28. Spademaker finisher.
Sophia Hill 22. Sister.
Jesse Willetts 24. Lodger.
Mary A Willetts 25. Loder.
Joseph Willetts 11 Mo. Son.

All born Rowley Regis.

[Northern Lass]

Thanks Jimmy

[Jimmy]

1841. Mousesweet Brook, Rowley Regis.
John Hill 65. Lab.
John Hill 21.
Joseph Hill 15. no occ. down.
Mary Hill 14.
Sophiah Hill 10.
William Hill 8.

All born in county.

[Northern Lass]

1841. Mousesweet Brook, Rowley Regis.
Joseph Hill 28. Spademaker finisher.
Sophia Hill 22. Sister.
Jesse Willetts 24. Lodger.
Mary A Willetts 25. Loder.
Joseph Willetts 11 Mo. Son.

All born Rowley Regis.

is this 1851

[Jimmy]

Yes sorry, have changed it.

[Northern Lass]

Did you see on 1851 marr is crossed thru for Joseph and then u for marital status

so not sure if that Parish one is his or not will add them for look up

completed with thanks on this one

[mallosa]

1881 Withymoor Road Dudley
Joseph Hill head married 58 spade finisher b Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Hill wife 48 Dudley
Ann Maria Hill dau unm 20
Elizabeth Hill dau unm 18
Mary Parish visitor W 77
all others born Dudley

Not sure this helps but...

1891: 4? Oak Street, Dudley, Worc (next to the 'British Oak' public house)
Joseph Hill 67 Spade Finisher Old Hill, Staffs
Elizabeth Hill 57 Dudley
Eliza J Hill 24 Dau Single Dressmaker Dudley, Worc

1901: 4? Oak Street, Dudley, Worc (next to the 'British Oak' public house)
Joseph Hill 78 Spade Finisher (Tool) Rowley, Staffs
Elizabeth Hill 68 Wife Dudley
Albert Whitehouse 14 Nephew Spade Finisher (Tool)
George Parry 65 Boarder Widower Night Watchman Dudley, Worc
Zillah Horner 56 LOdger Widow Dudley

[Northern Lass]

Thanks San add those if you have a min and wish to

I am now going to archive this thread thanks all for help