ARC TBC.............Sarah Edwards b1860 Oldbury

[tomwbhx]

Sarah Edwards, is my Great Grandmother born c1860 in Oldbury according to the Census Records 1881 onwards. I cannot find her before that. Her marriage cetificate (to William Henry Willetts, 16/10/1882 St Michaels, Handsworth), has her aged 22, so that is consistent and that her father was a Miner, John Edwards. In 1881 she was in service in Handsworth.

I have so far requested 3 birth cerificates that I though might be her, but with no luck. I think her father might have died in 1860, which doesn't help. I thought that maybe I had found her in the 1860 census, where an Emma Edwards had married a Joseph Hunt, but had a 2 year old daughter Sarah Edwards, so I requested the Marriage Certificate, but this shows Emma's father as another Edwards, so that doesn't work.

Any thoughts, suggestions, help would really be appreciated. I have been trying to fathom this out for nearly 2 years now and am getting nowhere!

Thanks

Tom

[Northern Lass]

Sarah Edwards, is my Great Grandmother born c1860 in Oldbury according to the Census Records 1881 onwards. I cannot find her before that. Her marriage cetificate (to William Henry Willetts, 16/10/1882 St Michaels, Handsworth), has her aged 22, so that is consistent and that her father was a Miner, John Edwards. In 1881 she was in service in Handsworth.

I have so far requested 3 birth cerificates that I though might be her, but with no luck. I think her father might have died in 1860, which doesn't help. I thought that maybe I had found her in the 1860 census, where an Emma Edwards had married a Joseph Hunt, but had a 2 year old daughter Sarah Edwards, so I requested the Marriage Certificate, but this shows Emma's father as another Edwards, so that doesn't work.

Any thoughts, suggestions, help would really be appreciated. I have been trying to fathom this out for nearly 2 years now and am getting nowhere!

Thanks

Tom

Do you have the full marriage info with wits on you can post?

[Northern Lass]

also do we have a dob and place of birth for Wm Henry Willetts to see if he is on the Bcc tree (click on my website logo to view)

[tomwbhx]

Yes
I have attached the Marriage Cert.

For William I have YOB 1857, West Bromwich

Thanks
Tom

[rockyfowler]

1881

265, Birchfield Rd, Handsworth
Staffordshire
PATTISON, Saml Head Single M 33 1848 Manager Of Mercantile Trades
Birmingham, Warwickshire
PATTISON, Elizabeth M Mother Widow F 69 1812
Swansea, Glamorganshire
EDWARDS, Sarah Servant Single F 22 1859 Dom Serv
Wednesbury

[Jimmy]

1881. 26 Springfield, Handsworth.
George B. Nicholls 55.
Alice E. Nicholls 18.
John R. Nicholls 22.
Harry B. Nicholls 21.
Sarah A. Edwards 20. Servant born Oldbury.

[Jimmy]

1891. Hunt St, Oldbury.
William H Willits 34.
Sarah Willits 31. Oldbury, Worcestershire.
William H Willits 7.
John Willits 4.


1901. 4 Hunt St, Oldbury.
William H Willetts 44.
Sarah Willetts 43. Oldbury, Worcestershire.
William H Willetts 17.
John Willetts 14.
Nora M Willetts 8.
Sam Willetts 1.
Tom Willetts 1.

This one is odd, brother is a Whitehouse.

1911. Court 1, 4 Hunt St, Oldbury.
Sarah Willetts 53. Widow. Oldbury.
John Willetts 24.
Sam Willetts 14.
Thomas Willetts 12.
Sam Whitehouse 43. Brother.

All born Oldbury.

[Jimmy]

1871. Eel St, Oldbury.
William Whitehouse 48. Smith.
Mary Ann Whitehouse 44.
Samuel Whitehouse 3. Son.
Sarah Whitehouse 10. Dau.
Eliza Whitehouse 4. Dau.
Mary Whitehouse 4 Months. Dau.
Mary Harrold 23. Lodger,
Phoebe Harrold 1. Lodger.

All born Oldbury.


West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1863.
WHITEHOUSE William. EDWARDS Mary A. Oldbury, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office. 12/2/127.

[Jimmy]

1861. Halesowen St, Oldbury.
Mary Ann Edwards 55. Widow. Oldbury.
Mary Ann Edwards 31. Dau. Unm. Oldbury.
Samuel Edwards 18. Son. Oldbury.
Sarah Edwards 9 Months. Dau. West Bromwich.

[Jimmy]

1881. 8 Court 3 Inkerman St. Oldbury.
William Whitehouse 63. Blacksmith Unemployed.
Mary Whitehouse 59.
Eliza Whitehouse 18. Dau.
Samuel Whitehouse 14. Son.
Mary Whitehouse 11. Dau.

All born Oldbury.

[Jimmy]

1851. Halesowen St, Oldbury.
Daniel Grigg 27.
John Grigg 71.
Ann Edwards 44. Sister. Widow.
Joseph Grigg 34. Brother.
Maryann Edwards 21. Niece.
Samuel Edwards 8. Nephew.
Edward Edwards 3 Mo. Nephew,

All born Oldbury.

WOR. Halesowen. St Johns. 311.
7 May 1826.
Joseph EDWARDS. Otp. Bachelor.
Mary Ann GRIGG. Otp. Spinster.
Witnesses.
William EDWARDS and Mary EDWARDS.

[tomwbhx]

Thanks all so far for your help. But now I'm really confused!
The marriage cert, has Edwards! But the 1911 census has as you have found a brother with the surname Whitehouse.
I'm wondering if Sarah's mom re-married, I'll see what I can find

Cheers
Tom

[Northern Lass]

Yes
I have attached the Marriage Cert.

For William I have YOB 1857, West Bromwich

Thanks
Tom

Hi can't see the marriage certif? can you post the info would you mind?
Just thinking we could add him to the Bcc tree might connect to some on already

[Northern Lass]

going to move this to the Black Country Genealogy section then I can sticky it and we can work thru it

looks interesting this one

[Northern Lass]

1851. Halesowen St, Oldbury.
Daniel Grigg 27.
John Grigg 71.
Ann Edwards 44. Sister. Widow.
Joseph Grigg 34. Brother.
Maryann Edwards 21. Niece.
Samuel Edwards 8. Nephew.
Edward Edwards 3 Mo. Nephew,

All born Oldbury.

WOR. Halesowen. St Johns. 311.
7 May 1826.
Joseph EDWARDS. Otp. Bachelor.
Mary Ann GRIGG. Otp. Spinster.
Witnesses.
William EDWARDS and Mary EDWARDS.

So Sarah Edwards mother is Mary Ann Edwards and she marries a Wm Whitehouse
and Mary ann Edwards mother is a Mary ann that marries Joseph Edwards