ARC TBC.............Isaac Downing - Rowley Regis

[sp1]

This Isaac on BCC:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ing-Family

I am sure this marriage is wrong, but dont want to alter anyone elses work without discussing it/ giving the reasons.

I believe this Isaac married, firstly Elizabeth Haden ('of Halesowen') 5 Aug 1723 - they had one son Samuel, who went on to marry and have children. Elizabeth was buried 9 June 1730 (Elizabeth wife of Isaac Downing bur).
Isaac then married Mary Granger 30 Dec 1731 - they had a number of children. Mary was buried 10 Jan 1762 - 'Mary Downing, wid, P. aged 58 years bur'.

I think the Isaac Downing who married Ann Windsor (17 Feb 1723) was a different Isaac bapt 20 Oct 1672, son of John & Elizabeth. He was buried 19 July 1727 - 'Isaac Downing of Foxoak'. He must have married an unknown Mary because we have bur 21 Oct 1722 'Mary w. of Isaac Downing (de ffoxoak). This Isaac and Mary do not appear to have had any children. I believe he must be the one who married Ann Windsor. There are no children recorded for Isaac & Ann.

None of these three marriages for an Isaac Downing gives any details as to marital status - the only one that has any other information is the Ann Windsor one which has (L) (??Licence) after it.

The Isaac who married Elizabeth Haden and Mary Granger was buried 11 Apr 1746 - 'Isaac Downing aged 46'.

We also have this Isaac on BCC:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ing-Family

the est 1715 date of birth is wrong - it should, of course be 1699.

[sp1]

Should have added that Ann Windsor may well have been a widow, given that Isaac was a widower - does anyone have any ideas on this?

NL if you agree with the first post could you join the 'EST 1715' Isaac as the same one b1699 s.of Josiah (and delete Ann Windsor) and I will fill in the details?

[sp1]

I also don't believe the parents for John Downing here:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ing-Family

When did you ever see someone born at this date with two Christian names...........? Where did this come from? There is also one child missing here - guess who .....Isaac Downing ' of Foxoak' discussed above! Will add him now!

I am descended from both John Downing who m Elizabeth Bissell, and Josiah his brother (who m Elizabeth Allchurch) - I am now going away to count how many fingers and toes I have!!!

[peterd]

1723

Aug. 5. Isaac Downing, of this p., & Elizabeth
Haden, of the p. of Hales-owen (P.) mar.

Feb. 17 Isaac Downing & Ann Windsor (L.) . mar

note year didnt change till mar

1727 July 19. Isaac Downing, of Foxoak . . ..bur.

1746 apr 14 Isaac Downing, aged 46 yrs, P. .bur.

1723 feb 24 Samuell, s. of Isaac & Elizabeth Downing. bap

this bap was after second isaac marriage find no death (ie in childbirth ?) for elizabeth

so two different isaac ?

[sp1]

1723

note year didnt change till mar

Yes, in modern terms it would be 1724

[Northern Lass]

can you pm twiglet on this forum and have a chat then between you you can sort it out.
If I need to get involved I will but not tonight as had a strong coffee or two!

[sp1]

can you pm twiglet on this forum and have a chat then between you you can sort it out.
If I need to get involved I will but not tonight as had a strong coffee or two!

.........and dont tell me ..........Corries on!

[Northern Lass]

can you pm twiglet on this forum and have a chat then between you you can sort it out.
If I need to get involved I will but not tonight as had a strong coffee or two!

.........and dont tell me ..........Corries on!

Keep up!! not on Weds anymore!!

Peter is great send him a Pm

[peterd]

note sp if i remember right not all bap were performed at RR as it was split with Clent ? think linell mention somat about it memory might be wrong ? or was it Halesowen ?

[sp1]

note sp if i remember right not all bap were performed at RR as it was split with Clent ? think linell mention somat about it memory might be wrong ?

That was marriages - the vicar insisted they (marriages) take place at Clent. Think that was a bit later though.

[peterd]

but if mar took place at clent it wouldnt rule out bap would it ? especially if it was a part time vicar linnel might have more info on it ?

[sp1]

1723

Aug. 5. Isaac Downing, of this p., & Elizabeth
Haden, of the p. of Hales-owen (P.) mar.

Feb. 17 Isaac Downing & Ann Windsor (L.) . mar

note year didnt change till mar

1727 July 19. Isaac Downing, of Foxoak . . ..bur.

1746 apr 14 Isaac Downing, aged 46 yrs, P. .bur.

1723 feb 24 Samuell, s. of Isaac & Elizabeth Downing. bap
h
this bap was after second isaac marriage find no death (ie in childbirth ?) for elizabeth

so two different isaac ?

Think I outlined that above - Elizabeth was buried 1730, so definitely not childbirch, unless it was a later child, but dont think there is any mention of any children after Samuel?

[peterd]

there two bur for later children down as s of isaac downing


1733 june 10 Thomas, s. of Isaac Downing, P. .bur.

1740 Oct. 29. Isaac, s. of Isaac Downing, P. .bur.

[sp1]

but if mar took place at clent it wouldnt rule out bap would it ? especially if it was a part time vicar linnel might have more info on it ?

That particular marriage wasnt at Clent!
It wasthe early 1800s when the vicar insisted on marriages taking place at Clent. This only ended in the 1840s, I think, when the two parishes were officially split.
I think it may have been George Barrs, who was vicar for over 40 years, who inisted on this, as he lived in Clent, but had control of the two parishes.

[peterd]

there is this could be isaac wid ?

1748 Sept. 29. William Ebb, of Westbromwich, &
Elizabeth Downing, of this p. . . mar.