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I have done this look up and added here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =553487636

now who are their kids pls

does this John Mills link?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=56500742


Adrian if you are about and have the marriage info for your John pls

is there a Bpat for that John anyone

Jahoniah Mills Christening: 21 JAN 1827 St Martin'S, Tipton, Stafford,
Parents:
Father: Daniel Mills
Mother: Mary Extracted



JECHONIAH MILLS Christening: 21 JAN 1827 Tipton, Stafford,
Parents:
Father: DANIEL MILLS
Mother: MARY Extracted

Need some census but I think he is a Jeconiah or whatever his name is and changes to John?

on 1841 there is a Jechonia someone has amended to Zachariah.

Does Daniel Die and Mary marry a John Payne?


JOHN PANE Marriages:
Spouse: MARY MILLS
Marriage: 23 SEP 1828 Dudley, Worcester, Form submitted



ELIZA MILLS Christening: 15 FEB 1835 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Mother: MARY MILLS Extracted

1841
MILLS Mary HERRING John C West Bromwich, All Saints Sandwell Register Office 22/2/110

1851 at Swan Village, West Bromwich
John Mills Head 23 Engine Worker b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Elizabeth Mills Wife 22 b. not known
Agnes Mills Daur 4 b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Eliza Mills Daur 2 b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Elizabeth Mills Daur 3 Mo b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Mary Dedicarte Servant 15 House Servant b. Staffs., West Bromwich

1861 at Grout Street, West Bromwich
John Mills Head 31 Engineer b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Betsey Mills Wife 30 b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Agnes Mills Daur 14 b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Betsey Mills Daur 7 b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Rachell Mills Daur 8 b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Daniel Mills Son 6 b. Staffs., West Bromwich
John Mills Son 3 b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Sarah Mills Daur 6 Months b. Staffs., West Bromwich

1871 at Cape Street (next street to Grout Street, West Bromwich
Zachriah (???) Mills Head 45 Engineer at Works b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Elizabeth Mills Wife 44 b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Rachell Mills Daur 18 b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Daniel Mills Son 16 b. Staffs., West Bromwich
John Mills Son 13 b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Sarah Mills Daur 10 b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Hannah Mills Daur 8 b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Mary Mills Daur 4 b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Zachriah Mills Son 5 Months b. Staffs., West Bromwich

1841 at Crone hills, Beale St., West Bromwich
Mary Payne 40
Joseph Mills 14
Willm. Mills 10
John Payne 8
/Jackoniah Mills 10
Eliza Mills 5
All born in county

1851 at Bull Lane, West Bromwich
John Payne Head 45 Coal Miner b. Staffs., Tividale
Mary Payne Wife 55 b. Worcs., Dudley
Mary Haring Daur Wid 29 b. Staffs., Tipton
Phebe Haring Granddaur 8 b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Eliza Mills Granddaur 17 b. Staffs., Darlaston

Thanks Di

Hi,

Wow you've been really busy and I glad that the information matches my own research.

Daniel & Mary must have been WESLEYAN because of this information:

IGI
Name:Joseph Mills
Birth Date:06 Dec 1834
Baptism 09 Jan 1835
Baptism/Christening Place:WESLEYAN,DARLASTON NEAR WOLVERHAMPTON,STAFFORD,
Father's Name:Daniel Mills Mother's Name:
Mary Bolt (I think should read Bott)

Joseph appears on the 1841 census with Mary Payne and living a few doors away with the Mason family is Mary Ann Mills who I think is the same person who marrys John C HERRING.

This entry causes problems with the marriage entry of Mary & John Payne 1828

IGI
Name:Hannah Mills
Birth Date:24 Apr 1833
Baptism/Christening Date:25 Apr 1833
Baptism/Christening Place:WESLEYAN,WEDNESBURY,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
Father's Name:Daniel Mills
Mother's Name:Mary

On Johns marriage certificate:

Parish church of Tipton, 6th September 1847
John Mills, of age, engine man, living Tipton, father: Daniel-engine man
Elizabeth Derrycoat, Minor, living Tipton, father: Thomas-gas man
John & Elizabeth X both
Witness:Thomas & Martha Derrycoat X both

I think I need to check May Mills marriage status.

Regards
Adrian

dianel wrote:1841 at Crone hills, Beale St., West Bromwich
Mary Payne 40
Joseph Mills 14
Willm. Mills 10
John Payne 8
/Jackoniah Mills 10
Eliza Mills 5

All born in county

This is a different age though born 1834 but Joseph on 1841 is aged 14

JOSEPH MILLS Birth: 06 DEC 1834
Christening: 09 JAN 1835 Wesleyan, Darlaston Near Wolverhampton, Stafford,Parents:
Father: DANIEL MILLS
Mother: MARY BOLT Extracted

and then this one
HANNAH MILLS Birth: 24 APR 1833
Christening: 25 APR 1833 Wesleyan, Wednesbury, Stafford,
Parents:
Father: DANIEL MILLS
Mother: MARY Extracted


If that is "our" Daniel and Mary then they are born as you say after marriage to John Payne in 1828

something odd with this lot.

I think that is our Zachariah with mother Mary who marries a John Payne

we could do with a death for DAniel.

and that mariage at St Thomas looked at as you say for her status.

MARY ANN MILLS Christening: 07 AUG 1825 Tipton, Stafford,
Parents:
Father: DANIEL MILLS
Mother: MARY Extracted

So that could be Mary on 1841 aged 15.....but then she is not mother to Eliza Mills aged 5 on 1841 as too young? or is she 12/13
Eliza b abt 1835
Mary Ann b abt 1822

dianel wrote:1841 at Crone hills, Beale St., West Bromwich
Mary Payne 40
Joseph Mills 14
Willm. Mills 10
John Payne 8
/Jackoniah Mills 10
Eliza Mills 5
All born in county

1851 at Bull Lane, West Bromwich
John Payne Head 45 Coal Miner b. Staffs., Tividale
Mary Payne Wife 55 b. Worcs., Dudley
Mary Haring Daur Wid 29 b. Staffs., Tipton
Phebe Haring Granddaur 8 b. Staffs., West Bromwich
Eliza Mills Granddaur 17 b. Staffs., Darlaston

1861 looks like Mary Payne has died
John Payne is a lodger at William Hunter and wife Eliza

1854
HUNTER William MILLS Eliza West Bromwich, All Saints Sandwell Register Office 22/6/404

Hi Northern Lass,

Yes some very good points made and maybe William & Joseph Mills living with Mary on the 1841 census are related but not her sons ? ?

This is interesting given Mary's maiden name was Bott:

Name:
Mary Bott

Baptism/Christening Date:
06 Oct 1805

Baptism/Christening Place:
Tipton, Stafford, England

Birth Date:
25 Sep 1805

Parents:
Joseph & Hannah Bott


1841 census
Tipton
Hannah Mills born abt 1836 (Family servant) living with Joseph & Hannah Bott

It's possible this Hannah is the daughter of Daniel & Mary. We have to be on the right track with all these connections.

Regards
Adrian

I think we are stuck till marriage look ups done

I have added them to look ups
something doesnt stack up

Brought this back

look up on "2nd marriage" for Mary bott/mills done
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =723151166

confused now

on 1st marriage signs
on 2nd X of
need to recheck those marriages

but I dont think that is her on 1851

I think it is her on 1841 with dau living near (mary Mills)

but 1851

those bapts for Joseph and Hannah are after the 1828 marriage to John payne.

The fact that that John/Zachoriah whatever his name is is with family on 1841 looks good for being
Mary that marries Daniel

any ideas?

also looked this up

15 Feb 1835 St Thomas Dudley
Eliza dau of Mary Mills Tipton "illegitimate"

so is that the Eliza aged 5 on 1841
is her mother Mary Mills dau b 1822?...bit young???

Can someone have a look at this lot pls see what they think
we are stumped

If this is the correct lot on Bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =112219454

a Mary Bott marries a Daniel Mills
he dies
she then marries John Payne

Q is that the couple on the 1851 his age is way out and where is he on 1841 not on 1841 with Mary wife.