Thanks for the look up Rocky Folwer.
I havent added to BCC yet because Im not sure where this Benjamin fits in...
3rd December 1883. St Thomas, Dudley
Benjamin Plant, 20, B, Gunner in Royal Horse Artillery, Dudley, Benjamin Plant, Miner
Mary Ann Steventon, 20, S, Dudley, Joel Steventon, Blast Furnaceman
Banns
Both Signed
Witnesses:- Joseph Martin. Eliza Palmer
Can we find Benjamin and hisfather?
*Archive* Benjamin Plant b abt 1863
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Re: Benjamin Plant b abt 1863
It doesnt look like we can find Benjamin with Mary this 1891 census shows her as Widow
1891. 144, Congreaves Road, Rowley Regis
Joel Steventon, head, 57, Balst Furnaceman, Dudley
Mary A, wife, 58,
Mary A Plant, daur, W, 27, Charwoman
Emily Steventon, daur, 19, Tailoress
Florence, daur, 17,
James E, son,. 15, ? maker
Edward C, grand son, 8
All others born Rowley Regis
1891. 144, Congreaves Road, Rowley Regis
Joel Steventon, head, 57, Balst Furnaceman, Dudley
Mary A, wife, 58,
Mary A Plant, daur, W, 27, Charwoman
Emily Steventon, daur, 19, Tailoress
Florence, daur, 17,
James E, son,. 15, ? maker
Edward C, grand son, 8
All others born Rowley Regis
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Re: Benjamin Plant b abt 1863
1881.
Benjamin PLANT Head M Male 56 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Watchman
Elizabeth PLANT Wife M Female 53 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Benjamin PLANT Son U Male 19 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Coal Miner
James PLANT Son U Male 15 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Labourer At Tube Works (Iron)
Hannah PLANT Daur U Female 13 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
William PLANT Son U Male 10 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Matilda MARTIN Daur M Female 21 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Joseph MARTIN Son In Law M Male 21 Dudley, Worcester, England Coal Miner
207 Halesowen Rd.
Rowley Regis, Stafford.
Benjamin PLANT Head M Male 56 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Watchman
Elizabeth PLANT Wife M Female 53 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Benjamin PLANT Son U Male 19 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Coal Miner
James PLANT Son U Male 15 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Labourer At Tube Works (Iron)
Hannah PLANT Daur U Female 13 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
William PLANT Son U Male 10 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Matilda MARTIN Daur M Female 21 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Joseph MARTIN Son In Law M Male 21 Dudley, Worcester, England Coal Miner
207 Halesowen Rd.
Rowley Regis, Stafford.
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Re: Benjamin Plant b abt 1863
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1858.
PLANT Benjamin. PALMER Elizabeth. Dudley, St Edmund. Dudley Register Office. 201/003/199.
PLANT Benjamin. PALMER Elizabeth. Dudley, St Edmund. Dudley Register Office. 201/003/199.
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Re: Benjamin Plant b abt 1863
Jimmy wrote:West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1858.
PLANT Benjamin. PALMER Elizabeth. Dudley, St Edmund. Dudley Register Office. 201/003/199.
Looks like Elizabeths second marriage,
Benjamin Plant.
Bride's Name: Elizabeth Palmer.
Marriage Date: 06 Dec 1858.
Marriage Place: St Edmund'S, Dudley, Worcester.
Groom's Father's Name: blank.
Bride's Father's Name: John Edwards.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02301-7.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 992182.
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Re: Benjamin Plant b abt 1863
Elizabeths first marriage,
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1850.
EDWARDS Elizabeth. PALMER James. Dudley, St Edmund. Dudley Register Office. 201/001/328.
James Palmer.
Bride's Name: Elizabeth Edwards.
Marriage Date: 12 Aug 1850.
Marriage Place: St. Edmund'S, Dudley, Worcester.
Groom's Father's Name: Thomas Palmer.
Bride's Father's Name: John Edwards.
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1850.
EDWARDS Elizabeth. PALMER James. Dudley, St Edmund. Dudley Register Office. 201/001/328.
James Palmer.
Bride's Name: Elizabeth Edwards.
Marriage Date: 12 Aug 1850.
Marriage Place: St. Edmund'S, Dudley, Worcester.
Groom's Father's Name: Thomas Palmer.
Bride's Father's Name: John Edwards.
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Re: Benjamin Plant b abt 1863
12 Aug 1850 St Edmund Dudley
James PALMER O B Miner Dudley Father Thomas Palmer Blacksmith
Elizabeth EDWARDS O S Dudley Father John Edwards Miner
After Banns James Signed The X Of Elizabeth
Wit; James Plant Elizabeth Plant X
James PALMER O B Miner Dudley Father Thomas Palmer Blacksmith
Elizabeth EDWARDS O S Dudley Father John Edwards Miner
After Banns James Signed The X Of Elizabeth
Wit; James Plant Elizabeth Plant X
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Re: Benjamin Plant b abt 1863
6 Dec 1858 St Edmund Dudley
Benjamin PLANT F W Collier Dudley Father Deceased --
Elizabeth PALMER F W Dudley Father John Edwards Farmer
After Banns Benjamin Signed The X Of elizabeth
Wit; Richard Bostock Selina Bostock X
Benjamin PLANT F W Collier Dudley Father Deceased --
Elizabeth PALMER F W Dudley Father John Edwards Farmer
After Banns Benjamin Signed The X Of elizabeth
Wit; Richard Bostock Selina Bostock X
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Re: Benjamin Plant b abt 1863
1851. Garratts Lane, Rowley Regis.
John Plant 62. Retired coal miner. Kingswinford, Worcestershire.
Mary Plant 62. Mouthswestbrook, Staffordshire.
Benjamin Plant 26. Son. Coal miner.
Elizabeth Plant 20. Wife.
Infant Plant under 1 Mo. Son.
Others born Rowley Regis.
1861. Black Heath, Rowley Regis.
Benjamin Plant 35. Coal miner.
Elizabeth Plant 34.
Sarah J Plant 8. Dau.
Matilda Plant 6. Dau.
All born Rowley Regis.
Age is out,
1871. Dog Lane, Rowley Regis.
Benjim Plant 36. Labourer.
Elizabeth Plant 36.
Ludia Plant 11. Dau. Matild ?
Pamela Plant 4. Dau.
Bennjim Plant 1. Son.
All born Rowley Regis.
John Plant 62. Retired coal miner. Kingswinford, Worcestershire.
Mary Plant 62. Mouthswestbrook, Staffordshire.
Benjamin Plant 26. Son. Coal miner.
Elizabeth Plant 20. Wife.
Infant Plant under 1 Mo. Son.
Others born Rowley Regis.
1861. Black Heath, Rowley Regis.
Benjamin Plant 35. Coal miner.
Elizabeth Plant 34.
Sarah J Plant 8. Dau.
Matilda Plant 6. Dau.
All born Rowley Regis.
Age is out,
1871. Dog Lane, Rowley Regis.
Benjim Plant 36. Labourer.
Elizabeth Plant 36.
Ludia Plant 11. Dau. Matild ?
Pamela Plant 4. Dau.
Bennjim Plant 1. Son.
All born Rowley Regis.
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Re: Benjamin Plant b abt 1863
1841. Garratts Lane, Rowley Regis, Staffs.
John Plant 52. Coal miner.
Mary Plant 52.
James Plant 19.
Benjamin Plant 16.
Luiena Plant 3.
All b.i.c.
John Plant 52. Coal miner.
Mary Plant 52.
James Plant 19.
Benjamin Plant 16.
Luiena Plant 3.
All b.i.c.
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Re: Benjamin Plant b abt 1863
Thank you Jimmy and Rock Fowler! 
I will add this now
Jo
I will add this now
Jo
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Re: Benjamin Plant b abt 1863
Jimmy wrote:1851. Garratts Lane, Rowley Regis.
John Plant 62. Retired coal miner. Kingswinford, Worcestershire.
Mary Plant 62. Mouthswestbrook, Staffordshire.
Benjamin Plant 26. Son. Coal miner.
Elizabeth Plant 20. Wife.
Infant Plant under 1 Mo. Son.
Others born Rowley Regis.
1861. Black Heath, Rowley Regis.
Benjamin Plant 35. Coal miner.
Elizabeth Plant 34.
Sarah J Plant 8. Dau.
Matilda Plant 6. Dau.
All born Rowley Regis.
Age is out,
1871. Dog Lane, Rowley Regis.
Benjim Plant 36. Labourer.
Elizabeth Plant 36.
Ludia Plant 11. Dau. Matild ?
Pamela Plant 4. Dau.
Bennjim Plant 1. Son.
All born Rowley Regis.
I dont think 1871 is right. And may be Matildas age is 6 0n 1861??
May be this??
Transcribed as Plaut looks like Plant
1871. Halesowen Road, Rowley Regis
Benjamin Plant, head, 46, night watchman
Elizabeth, wife, 44,
John Palmer, wifes son, 17, Coal miner
Matilda Plant, daur, 11 nurse
Benjamin, son, 9
James, son, 5,
Hannah, daur, 3,
All born Rowley Regis
Living nextdoor to James Plant, 49, wife Elizabeth and family
Re: Benjamin Plant b abt 1863
This is an interesting one. I can't fit these Plants into the Black Country Plant lines I have. They could be "incomers" from another part of Staffordshire, of course e.g. Stone. Putting together the IGI and censuses this is my best guess. Usual apologies...:
Descendants of John Plant
Generation No. 1
1. JOHN1 PLANT was born Abt. 1789 in Staffordshire. He married MARY UNKNOWN.
Children of JOHN PLANT and MARY UNKNOWN are:
2. i. JAMES2 PLANT, b. Abt. 09 Dec 1821, Windmill End, Netherton; d. 1892.
3. ii. BENJAMIN PLANT, b. Abt. 06 Mar 1825, Spring House.
4. iii. SARAH PLANT.
Generation No. 2
2. JAMES2 PLANT (JOHN1) was born Abt. 09 Dec 1821 in Windmill End, Netherton, and died 1892. He married ELIZABETH UNKNOWN. She was born Abt. 1823 in Leominster, Herefordshire.
Children of JAMES PLANT and ELIZABETH UNKNOWN are:
i. JOHN P3 PLANT, b. Abt. 1846, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
ii. ANN E PLANT, b. Abt. 1849, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
iii. SUSAN M PLANT, b. Abt. 1850, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
iv. JAMES PLANT, b. Abt. 1854, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
v. BENJAMIN PLANT, b. Abt. 1859, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
vi. THOMAS PLANT, b. Abt. 1860, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
vii. FANNY PLANT, b. Abt. 1864, Stourbridge, Worcestershire.
3. BENJAMIN2 PLANT (JOHN1) was born Abt. 06 Mar 1825 in Spring House. He married ELIZABETH EDWARDS 06 Dec 1858 in St Edmund's church, Dudley, Worcestershire, daughter of JOHN EDWARDS. She was born Abt. 1828 in Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Children of BENJAMIN PLANT and ELIZABETH EDWARDS are:
i. BENJAMIN3 PLANT, b. Abt. 1862, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire; m. MARY ANN STEVENTON, 03 Dec 1883, St Thomas' church, Dudley, Worcestershire; b. Abt. 1864, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Notes for BENJAMIN PLANT:
3rd December 1883. St Thomas, Dudley
Benjamin Plant, 20, B, Gunner in Royal Horse Artillery, Dudley, Benjamin Plant, Miner
Mary Ann Steventon, 20, S, Dudley, Joel Steventon, Blast Furnaceman
Banns
Both Signed
Witnesses:- Joseph Martin. Eliza Palmer
ii. JAMES PLANT, b. Abt. 1866, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
iii. HANNAH PLANT, b. Abt. 1868, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
iv. WILLIAM PLANT, b. Abt. 1871, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
4. SARAH2 PLANT (JOHN1)
Child of SARAH PLANT is:
i. LUCINA3 PLANT, b. 27 Nov 1837, Dudley, Worcestershire?.
This Lucina / Lucena etc. may be a clue we could follow, I presume an illegitimate grandchild on the 1841 census. There's a Lucena next door too, and the IGI has at least one in America later. Special family name?
Descendants of John Plant
Generation No. 1
1. JOHN1 PLANT was born Abt. 1789 in Staffordshire. He married MARY UNKNOWN.
Children of JOHN PLANT and MARY UNKNOWN are:
2. i. JAMES2 PLANT, b. Abt. 09 Dec 1821, Windmill End, Netherton; d. 1892.
3. ii. BENJAMIN PLANT, b. Abt. 06 Mar 1825, Spring House.
4. iii. SARAH PLANT.
Generation No. 2
2. JAMES2 PLANT (JOHN1) was born Abt. 09 Dec 1821 in Windmill End, Netherton, and died 1892. He married ELIZABETH UNKNOWN. She was born Abt. 1823 in Leominster, Herefordshire.
Children of JAMES PLANT and ELIZABETH UNKNOWN are:
i. JOHN P3 PLANT, b. Abt. 1846, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
ii. ANN E PLANT, b. Abt. 1849, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
iii. SUSAN M PLANT, b. Abt. 1850, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
iv. JAMES PLANT, b. Abt. 1854, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
v. BENJAMIN PLANT, b. Abt. 1859, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
vi. THOMAS PLANT, b. Abt. 1860, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
vii. FANNY PLANT, b. Abt. 1864, Stourbridge, Worcestershire.
3. BENJAMIN2 PLANT (JOHN1) was born Abt. 06 Mar 1825 in Spring House. He married ELIZABETH EDWARDS 06 Dec 1858 in St Edmund's church, Dudley, Worcestershire, daughter of JOHN EDWARDS. She was born Abt. 1828 in Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Children of BENJAMIN PLANT and ELIZABETH EDWARDS are:
i. BENJAMIN3 PLANT, b. Abt. 1862, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire; m. MARY ANN STEVENTON, 03 Dec 1883, St Thomas' church, Dudley, Worcestershire; b. Abt. 1864, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Notes for BENJAMIN PLANT:
3rd December 1883. St Thomas, Dudley
Benjamin Plant, 20, B, Gunner in Royal Horse Artillery, Dudley, Benjamin Plant, Miner
Mary Ann Steventon, 20, S, Dudley, Joel Steventon, Blast Furnaceman
Banns
Both Signed
Witnesses:- Joseph Martin. Eliza Palmer
ii. JAMES PLANT, b. Abt. 1866, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
iii. HANNAH PLANT, b. Abt. 1868, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
iv. WILLIAM PLANT, b. Abt. 1871, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
4. SARAH2 PLANT (JOHN1)
Child of SARAH PLANT is:
i. LUCINA3 PLANT, b. 27 Nov 1837, Dudley, Worcestershire?.
This Lucina / Lucena etc. may be a clue we could follow, I presume an illegitimate grandchild on the 1841 census. There's a Lucena next door too, and the IGI has at least one in America later. Special family name?
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Re: Benjamin Plant b abt 1863
Have you looked on BCC Dennis?
Do you think we are getting there?
Jo
Do you think we are getting there?
Jo
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Re: Benjamin Plant b abt 1863
rockyfowler wrote:6 Dec 1858 St Edmund Dudley
Benjamin PLANT F W Collier Dudley Father Deceased --
Elizabeth PALMER F W Dudley Father John Edwards Farmer
After Banns Benjamin Signed The X Of elizabeth
Wit; Richard Bostock Selina Bostock X
Although father is meant to be farmer it looks like this connects here, Selina witness is Elizabeths sister and Elizabeths son John Palmer is with Grand father 1861
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =835516522