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sorting out the Moretons from the Mortons and Hortons

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:58 pm
by mumbles
Have added Census to this Moreton/Morton family

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =745371863
and it is now easier to follow

However following on from this their son William married an Elizabeth Beet at St. Thomas Dudley not Rowley Regis as shown ( married as Moreton)

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =204769258

Following on from this a daughter Mary Ann Moreton born 1859 is noted but I believe the 1881 Census is mistranscribed and this is Mary Jane Moreton on original

1881 Census 14 Beet Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
William Morton Head 46 General Labourer
Elizabeth Morton wife 41 Nail Maker
Mary Jane Morton dau 22 Nail Maker
Alice Morton dau 12 Scholar
William Morton son Scholar
Hannah Morton dau 5 Scholar
Elizabeth Morton dau
Minnie Morton dau 0
All born Rowley Regis

This Mary Jane Morton married a William Guest at St. John Halesowen
(Married as Mary J. Morton )
and they had a daughter Emma Guest who married an Alfred Boot at St. Pauls 1911
Alfred died in ww1 and is on RR Roll of Honour at St. Pauls

Re: sorting out the Moretons from the Mortons and Hortons

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:04 pm
by grangers14
You could add a note on Mary saying mistrancribed as Mary Ann if you are sure that her middle name is Jane.
How is her birth registered?
Do you have her marriage record?
Jo :)

Re: sorting out the Moretons from the Mortons and Hortons

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:08 pm
by Northern Lass
I have put marriage for look up and amended her name

does it def say Mary Jane on census in 1881?

Re: sorting out the Moretons from the Mortons and Hortons

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:11 pm
by grangers14
Sorry NL hadnt seen your post
Jo :)

Re: sorting out the Moretons from the Mortons and Hortons

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:16 pm
by grangers14
The image does say Jane, transcribed as Ann.

Re: sorting out the Moretons from the Mortons and Hortons

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:17 pm
by mumbles
Definitely Mary Jane on 1881 Census and Mary J. on 1871 Census and Mary J. on 1901 Census but Polly in 1911

Re: sorting out the Moretons from the Mortons and Hortons

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:39 pm
by mumbles
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =340396010

Connection to Alfred Boot is confirmed by CWGC record which shows his wife as Emma at 56 John Street which is her parents house in 1911

Re: sorting out the Moretons from the Mortons and Hortons

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:30 pm
by grangers14
I will split this as it gets confusing jumping from names.
Jo :)

Re: sorting out the Moretons from the Mortons and Hortons

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:54 am
by Margarett
She was Mary Ann, known as Polly. My Mum knew her. Hannah was my great-grandma. Her birth was registered as Moreton, but she married as Morton. I have lots of certs for this family. It must have me who mistakenly put the mattiage down as RR instead of Dudley. Just shows how easy it is to make mistakes even when you have the certs in front of you! Sorry!

Re: sorting out the Moretons from the Mortons and Hortons

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:58 am
by Northern Lass
Margarett wrote:She was Mary Ann, known as Polly. My Mum knew her.


She seems to be Mary Jane on census and on marriage so on Bcc we will keep it as Mary Jane.

Maybe she changed her name to Mary Ann later?

Re: sorting out the Moretons from the Mortons and Hortons

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:05 am
by mumbles
Wow Margaret, but she was definitely Mary Jane from all other records. Your mother might have known Emma Guest and her husband Alfred Boot who died in ww1
Edward Moreton born 1885 appears to have married a Miriam Harris
who is already on bcc
1911 Census 11 Beeches Road Blackheath Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
James Harris Head 54 Boat Unloader born Old Hill Staffs.
Alice Harris 54 born Halesowen Worcs.
Married 12 years, no children
Edward Morton son.in.law 26
Miriam Morton dau 24 born Haden Hill Staffs.
Married 12 years 1 child
James Morton grd.son 9mths

Re: sorting out the Moretons from the Mortons and Hortons

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:16 am
by mumbles
Second marriage should be 1 year not 12
Edward Norton & Miriam Harris 1910 St. Pauls Blackheath

Re: sorting out the Moretons from the Mortons and Hortons

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:29 am
by mumbles
witnesses at wedding of William Guest and Mary Jane Moreton were John Rolandson and Mary Rolanson who appear to be relatives as James Harris first wife Jane Rollason had a brother John Rollason born 1866

Re: sorting out the Moretons from the Mortons and Hortons

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:33 am
by Northern Lass
mumbles wrote:Wow Margaret, but she was definitely Mary Jane from all other records. Your mother might have known Emma Guest and her husband Alfred Boot who died in ww1
Edward Moreton born 1885 appears to have married a Miriam Harris
who is already on bcc
1911 Census 11 Beeches Road Blackheath Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
James Harris Head 54 Boat Unloader born Old Hill Staffs.
Alice Harris 54 born Halesowen Worcs.
Married 12 years, no children
Edward Morton son.in.law 26
Miriam Morton dau 24 born Haden Hill Staffs.
Married 12 years 1 child
James Morton grd.son 9mths


are you ok to connect up this Miriam do you need a marriage?

Re: sorting out the Moretons from the Mortons and Hortons

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:38 am
by Margarett
Sorry, I'm getting confused here, She is Mary Jane, but was known as Polly. Was looking at previous generation. Interesting that Ann Eliza also married a guest. I knew her, she was my great great aunt . Mumbles, my family live to great ages! Ann Eliza b Moreton was over 90 when she died.