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*Archive?* John Bateman and son Albert Bateman

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this crosses over with the thread Rob has put on
but posting Albert Bateman born about 1879 here so as to keep separate

we have Albert as grandson of John Bateman and Elizabeth here...

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=80738416

1881 56 Halesowen Street Blackheath
John Bateman 52head
Elizabeth Bateman 54 wife
Elizabeth 28 daugh
Eliza 24 daugh
Joseph Hall 17 grandsonCoal Miner
James Hall 13 grandson
John Hall 8 grandson
Joseph Hall 4 grandson
Hannah Bateman 2 granddaughter
Albert Bateman 2 grandson

1891 11 Tump Road Blackheath
John Bateman 62 head
Elizabeth Bateman 65 wife
Eliza Bateman 34 daugh
James Hall 23 grandson
John T Hall 18 grandson
Joseph Bateman 13 grandson(see 1881 census Joseph Hall?)
Hannah Bateman 11 granddaug
Albert Bateman 11 grandson

now on marriage I have for Albert...and it is his marriage :grin:

father looks like a John Bateman.....gentleman?........cant read it
Jo will upload name and occup info --thanks jo :wink:
it says something under John Bateman name too


John Bateman and Elizabeth do have a son John
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=80738416

1871 Blackheath
John Bateman 42 head coalminer
Elizabeth Bateman 42 wife
Thomas Bateman 21 son
Christopher Bateman 17 son
Elizabeth Bateman 15 daugh
John Bateman 10 son
William Bateman 10 son
Eliza Bateman 8 daugh
Thomas Bateman 3 grandson

Where is John Bateman in 1881 is he father of Albert
he should be bout 20 in 1881 ............but gentleman? in 1898?

marriage info

7th August 1900 St Pauls Blackheath
Albert Bateman 21 bach Collier Green Lane John Bateman (underneath his name looks like ( Dead)? Gentleman?
Eliza Evans 22 spinster Causeway Green Enoch Evans Collier
banns
both signed
wit - John Hipkiss Ellen Evans

can someone post the 1901 for albert pls

and can we keep this thread for Albert
pls open new thread for Eliza
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Looks like (dead) and gentleman to me.
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1901
BATEMAN, Albert Head Married M 22 1879 Coal Miner Loader Below Ground
Blackheath
Staffordshire
BATEMAN, Eliza Wife Married F 23 1878
Blackheath
Staffordshire
EVANS, Ellen Sister-In-Law Single F 25 1876
Old Hill
Staffordshire


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1911
BATEMAN, Albert Head Married M 32 1879 Loader In Coal Mine Staffs Black Heath
BATEMAN, Eliza Wife Married
10 years F 33 1878 Staffs Black Heath
BATEMAN, Albert Son M 9 1902 Worc Halesowen
BATEMAN, John Son M 8 1903 Derbyshire Shriebrook
BATEMAN, Victoria Daughter F 7 1904 Worc Halesowen
BATEMAN, Arthur Son M 6 1905 Worc Halesowen
BATEMAN, Denis Son M 4 1907 Worc Halesowen
BATEMAN, Ernest Son M 2 1909 Worc Halesowen
7 children born alive 1 died
58 Olive Lane Halesowen County:
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1881. Guilford Lane, Holly tree Row, Claylane Derbyshire
Abel Morris, head, 32, Coal Miner
Sarah, wife, 31, Oldbury
Abel, son, 6,
Hannah, daur, 4,
Thomas, son, 2, Clay cross
John Bateman, brother in law, 22, Coal miner, Briswalfield?
William Bateman, brother in law, 20, Coal Miner, Oldbury
All others born Rowley Regis

on this is he single John Bateman?

no Albert with him so he cant be father

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??

Looked for Hannah and Alberts births, may be this?
Albert Jones Bateman, Dudley, 6c 19
Hannah Weston Bateman, Dudley, 6c 19
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1891 11 Tump Road Blackheath
John Bateman 62 head
Elizabeth Bateman 65 wife
Eliza Bateman 34 daugh
James Hall 23 grandson
John T Hall 18 grandson
Joseph Bateman 13 grandson(see 1881 census Joseph Hall?)
Hannah Bateman 11 granddaug
Albert Bateman 11 grandson


This seems a bit odd?? Is this Hall really?

1901. 74 Trump Road, Rowley Regis
John T Hill, head, S, 28, Coal Miner Hewer, Blackheath
Elizabeth Bateman, Servant (Housekeeper crossed out) S, 43, Nail Maker, Birmingham
Hannah Bateman, boarder, 21, Domestic Sevant, Rowley Regis
William Potter, Boarder, 25, ? Labourer, Kingswinford
Annie E Harris, adopted daur, 1, Blackheath
Kate E Lewet? adopted daur, 1, Sedgley
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Was there Lewett or something like on a marriage as witnesses with one of this family?
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oh here

Marriage Looked up by Rocky Fowler
23 July 1899 St Giles Rowley Regis
James Hall 34 bach Collier Olive Lane no father on certif
Harriet Smith 34 widow Olive Lane Lacey? Howell deceased Truck? Builder banns
X James Harriett signed
wit - Joseph Bateman / Mary Lewett
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I wonder if he has just made up his fathers name?
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grangers14 wrote:
1891 11 Tump Road Blackheath
John Bateman 62 head
Elizabeth Bateman 65 wife
Eliza Bateman 34 daugh
James Hall 23 grandson
John T Hall 18 grandson
Joseph Bateman 13 grandson(see 1881 census Joseph Hall?)
Hannah Bateman 11 granddaug
Albert Bateman 11 grandson


This seems a bit odd?? Is this Hall really?

1901. 74 Trump Road, Rowley Regis
John T Hill, head, S, 28, Coal Miner Hewer, Blackheath
Elizabeth Bateman, Servant (Housekeeper crossed out) S, 43, Nail Maker, Birmingham
Hannah Bateman, boarder, 21, Domestic Sevant, Rowley Regis
William Potter, Boarder, 25, ? Labourer, Kingswinford
Annie E Harris, adopted daur, 1, Blackheath
Kate E Lewet? adopted daur, 1, Sedgley


do you think albert is son of Elizabeth the dau
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Just a thought that Albert and Hannah are Elizabeths children :?
Both them births have the same volume and page...
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Could this be John Trump road again?
1901. 66 Trump Road, Rowley Regis
John Bateman, head, 45, coal miner drawer down pit, Halesowen
Jane, wife, 51, Dressmaker, Satffs Newport?
Sarah, daur, 10, Rowley Regis
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Are they on 1911 please?

possible marriage but 2 names ??

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1898
BATEMAN John ALLEN Sarah J Oldbury, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 12/4/358

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Marriages Mar 1898
ALLEN Hannah Jane W. Bromwich 6b 922
Bateman John W. Bromwich 6b 922
Davis Herbert Morgan West Bromwich 6b 922
Price Emily Louisa W. Bromwich 6b 922


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