De Denne family of Cradley Heath

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Whilst researchin Walter Somers family I came across an unusual surname of De Denne and found connection with Cradley Heath
Colman Hill House Retreat, for the exclusive reception of lady inebriates, is in this district: the house is beautifully situated in extensive grounds, and the views from all parts are very fine: Hugh Richard Ker F.R.C.S. edin. and Thomas Vincent de Denne L.R.C.P. edin. Townsend House Halesowen are the managing directors, Miss Cooper is the resident superintendent.
It would appear Dr.Thomas De Denne moved to Cradley after being involved with lunatic asylums all over the UK and was involved with Colman House

Most of his children were born inn Rowley Regis but family is hard to follow as changes from Denne to De Denne and back again

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What are you after on this Mumbles
any dates?

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I want to find out what happened to children and did they stay in Cradley Heath
I will put what I have on family shortly

[Northern Lass]

I want to find out what happened to children and did they stay in Cradley Heath
I will put what I have on family shortly

do we have any dates? dob for these people so we can have a look

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1891 Census 18, Cradley Road Old Hill Cradley Heath Dudley Staffs.
Thomas V. De Denne Head 45 General Practitioner born Woolwich Kent
Margaret A. De Denne wife 39 born Cheddington Bucks.
Winifred De Denne dau 6 born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Cecil Hugh De Denne son 5 born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Dorothy De Denne dau 2 born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Geoffrey De Denne son 6 born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Godkin Downes boarder 29 Student of Medicine born Dublin Ireland
Henrietta Gibbins servant 27 Nurse Domestic born Heyford Northants
Annie Lewis servant 28 Cook Domestic born Oldbury Staffs.
Mary Trow servant born Neen savage Shrops.

1911 Census Sidlands Vicarage Road Sidmouth Honiton Devonshire
Thomas Vincent De Denne (m) 63 Medical Practitioner born Woolwich Kent
Winifred Lucy De Denne dau 26 born Cradley Heath Staffs.
Married 29 years , 5 children, 5 living

Cannot find 1901 Census and his wife in 1911 or his children after 1891 other than Winifred with him in 1911

Can find him on 1871 and 1861 and 1851 with his parents William Denne and Lucy Mary Ann Denne but not in 1881

[grangers14]

It looks like Winifred De Denne and Dorothy De Denne were Students in 1901 aged, 16 and 12 both born Cradley Heath. at Cambridge? House, Malvern Hills

[grangers14]

? some births?

Freebmd

Births Jun 1883
DE DENNE Henry Dudley 6c 10
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Births Sep 1884
De Denne Winifred Lucy Dudley 6c 8
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Births Dec 1885
De Denne Cecil Hugh Dudley 6c 6
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Births Jun 1888
DE DENNE Dorothy Dudley 6c 30
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Births Mar 1890
De Denne Thomas Geoffrey Dudley 6c 31

[grangers14]

? from ancestry
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941
de Denne Thomas Vincent of 18 High Street Fareham Kent MRCS died 17 March 1919 Probale London 22 May to Margaret Anne de Denne widow.
Effects £3107 15s 9d

[grangers14]

?
Transcribed as Denue
1881. District Saint Andrews Hospital Northamptonshire
Thomas V de Denne Assistant Medical officer, unm, 35, assistant medical officer MRCL & LRC P Edin?, Kent Woolwich

[grangers14]

It says this in the transcripts
"St Andrews Hosp Mental Diseases"

[grangers14]

Possibly some joined RN?
Henry
Cecil

and Thomas?
Thomas Geoffrey De Dennie
Death Date: 4 Oct 1917
Rank: 2/Lieutenant
Regiment: Devonshire Regiment
Battalion: 4th Battalion (Territorial)
Type of Casualty: Killed in action

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Thanks graingers14 I will add all this and found marriage of Dorothy De Denne to a George Lacey May
1911 Census The Vicarage West Tisted Ropley Alresford Hants.
George Lacey May Head 38 Vicar of West Tisted born Birch Essex
Dorothy May wife 22 born Cradley Heath Staffs.
Annie Martin servant 35 General Domestic Servant born Fareham Hants.
Married 1 year no children

Married Honiton Devon 1910

Lucy Hannah De Denne brother of Thomas Vincent De Denne married a George Cooper Franklin and their son Harold Gordon Cooper Franklin born 15/1/1885
became Rear Admiral and was involved in WW1 and WW2

Stiil have not found family in 1901 other than two daughters or wife in 1911

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1851 Census Middlesx County Lunatic Asylum (Hanwell Asylum)
William Denne Head 44 Medical Practitioner born Chislet Kent
Lucy Denne wife 34 born Walstow Essex
Thomas Vincent De Denne son 5 born Woolwich Kent
William Robert De Denne son 7 born Woolwich Kent
Frances Jane Denne dau 10 born Canterbury

1861 Census Three Counties Lunatic Asylum Biggleswade Bedfordshire
William Denne Head 53 Fellow of Royal College Surgeons London born Chislet Kent
Lucy Denne wife 44 Matron born Walstow Essex
Thomas Vincent De Denne son 15 Scholar born Woolwich Kent
William Robert De Denne son 17 Clerk S&C Bank born Woolwich Kent
Frances Jane Denne dau 20 born Canterbury Kent
Lucy Hannah De Denne dau 9 born Hanwell Middlesex

For some reason called some of children Denne and rest De Denne

Possibly something to do with wife being Denne surname as well

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Complete unless anyone has found missing Census records.
All added

[grangers14]

Oh here they are Mumbles

Transcribed as Depenne
1901. Cradley Road, Rowley Regis
Thomas V de Denne, head, 53, Surgeon and Physician, Woolwich
Margaret, wife, 53, Chettington
Hannah Earl?, serv, 49, Cook domestic, Dudley
Emma Lewis, serv, 20, Housemaid, Cradley Heath