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Thanks for the look up BC Wench :grin:

27 November 1871 St James, Lower Gornal

William Hartill, 49, Widower, Miner, Dudley John Hartill (Dec), Stone Mason

Martha Meese, 46, Widow, Nailer, Lower Gornal, Stephen Rollason, White Smith

Wit: James Hartill, Elizabeth Hartill

Can we find previous census and wife for William?
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1881. 73, Eve Hill, Dudley
William Hartill, head, 58, Lime stone miner
Martha, wife, 55
Both born Dudley
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1861. Bradley St, Dudley.
William Hartill 37. Lime stone miner. Sedgley.
Hannah Hartill 34.
William Hartill 15. Son. Lime stone miner.
Mary Hartill 13. Dau. Sedgley.
Samuel Hartill 5. Son.
Richard Hartill 4. Son.
Thomas Hartill 2. Son.
Katharine Hartill 3 MO. Dau.
Sarah Hartill 20. Sister. Unm.

Others born Dudley.
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I wonder if John his father is on? Same occupa\tion...
We have a William Hartill here with father John, 1861 in Bradley street too
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1851. Terrace, Dudley
William Hartill, head, 27, lime stone miner
Hannah, wife, 23,
Elizabeth, daur, 6,
William, son, 5,
Mary, daur, 2
All born Dudley
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ignore me am getting in a pickle! :?
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William thats on BCC is married to Hannah Downing in 1871, this marriage was November 1871 so could be.

Witness to marriage is a James and theres a sister Sarah with William in 1861 Sarah, born Darlaston

??
1841, Green, Darlaston
John Hartell, 40, Stone Mason,
Martha, 35,
James, 15, pudler,
Joseph, 12, nailer
Thomas, 11,
Samuel, 2,
Sarah, 1 month
All born in County
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??
Possible death
Hannah Hartill
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1871
Age at Death: 45
Registration district: Dudley
Inferred County: Staffordshire
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Page: 70
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grangers14 wrote:William thats on BCC is married to Hannah Downing in 1871, this marriage was November 1871 so could be.

Witness to marriage is a James and theres a sister Sarah with William in 1861 Sarah, born Darlaston

??
1841, Green, Darlaston
John Hartell, 40, Stone Mason,
Martha, 35,
James, 15, pudler,
Joseph, 12, nailer
Thomas, 11,
Samuel, 2,
Sarah, 1 month
All born in County



There is also this John who is a Stone Mason.

1841. Ruiton, Sedgley. Staffs.
John Hartill abt 1805. Stone mason.
Sarah Hartill abt 1805.
Isaac Hartill abt 1829.
Wm Hartill abt 1831.
Joseph Hartill abt 1832.
Elizebeth Hartill abt 1836.
Sarah Hartill abt 1839.
Eyser Hartill abt 1841.

All born in county.
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Thats more the area for the marriage isnt it? Sedgley, Lower Gornal?

That family you put are on BCC here Jimmy
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I dont think its that one in 1841 either Jimmy. 1851 William is with the family as a brick layer. The one we want should be a miner :?
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Theres this...
1841. Green, Darlaston
John Morriss, 65, Nailer
Hannah, 65,
Charles, 35, Nailer
All born County

1851. Green, Darlaston
John Morris, head, 81, Nailer
Hannah, wife, 83, blind
Charles, son, 45
Sarah Hartill, grand daur, 10
All born Darlaston
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Jimmy wrote:There is also this John who is a Stone Mason.

1841. Ruiton, Sedgley. Staffs.
John Hartill abt 1805. Stone mason.
Sarah Hartill abt 1805.
Isaac Hartill abt 1829.
Wm Hartill abt 1831.
Joseph Hartill abt 1832.
Elizebeth Hartill abt 1836.
Sarah Hartill abt 1839.
Eyser Hartill abt 1841.

All born in county.


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Witnesses to marriage?
1861. Himley? Road, Dudley
James Hartill, head, 26, Limestone miner, Gornal
Elizabeth, wife, 27
Alice, daur, 9
Fillis, daur, 6
Others born Dudley

1871. 33 Ruiton, (Cross Keys) Sedgley
James Hartill, head, 43, Licensed Victualler, Sedgley
Elizabeth, wife, 44,
Alice, daur, 19,
Phillis, daur, 16
All others born Dudley

1881. 33 Ruitin Sreet, (Cross Keys) Sedgley
James Hartill, head, 54, Licensed victualer, Sedgley
Elizabeth, wife, 55, Dudley
Thomas Bates, son in law, 27, Blacksmith, Sedgley
Phyliss Bates, daur, 26, Dudley
Thomas Howard Bates, grand son, 8, Sedgley
Ann Rebecca, servant, 14, general servant, Dudley
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West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1845
HARTILL James RHODES Elizabeth Tipton, St Martin (Pepper Box) Sandwell Register Office 39/4/6

1851. Dudley Road, Sedgley
James Hartill, head, 25, Miner, Sedgley
Elizabeth, wife, 27, Dudley
Sarah, daur, 4, Sedgley, Deaf and dumb
Sarah Winchurch? , lodger, 18, nailer, Dudley
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grangers14 wrote:
1881. 33 Ruitin Sreet, (Cross Keys) Sedgley
James Hartill, head, 54, Licensed victualer, Sedgley
Elizabeth, wife, 55, Dudley
Thomas Bates, son in law, 27, Blacksmith, Sedgley
Phyliss Bates, daur, 26, Dudley
Thomas Howard Bates, grand son, 8, Sedgley
Ann Rebecca, servant, 14, general servant, Dudley


This could be the same as this one?

1871. 3 West Street, Dudley
William Hartill, head, 48, Stone Miner, Gornal,
Hannah, wife, 44,
Samuel, son, 15,
Richard, son, 14,
Thomas, son, 12
Catherine, daur, 8,
Sarah J, daur, 5,
Ann R, daur, 3,
All others born Dudley
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Re: William Hartill b abt 1822

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I will look again tomorrow. :crazy:
Anyone any ideas in the meantime?
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