*Help pls adding census and kids*--Esther Grove b abt 1865

[Northern Lass]

Can we find her on census pls with father George

[cid]

1871 Bedcote Street, Cradley
GROVE, George Head M 33 1838 Puddler Worcestershire
GROVE, Emma Wife F 30 1841 Worcestershire
GROVE, Eliza Daughter F 11 1860 Worcestershire
GROVE, Annie Daughter F 9 1862 Worcestershire
GROVE, Esther Daughter F 5 1866 Worcestershire
GROVE, Prisilla Daughter F 3 1868 Worcestershire
GROVE, Ellen Daughter F 0 1871 Worcestershire



1881 12, New St, Cradley
GROVE, George Head Married M 45 1836 Forge Man Cradley Worcestershire
GROVE, Emma Wife Married F 41 1840 Rowley Staffordshire
GROVE, Priscilla Daughter Single F 13 1868 Scholar Cradley Worcestershire
GROVE, Ellen Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar Cradley Worcestershire
GROVE, Frank Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar Cradley Worcestershire
GROVE, Cristy M Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Cradley Worcestershire
GROVE, Joseph D Son Single M 2 1879 Cradley Worcestershire
GROVE, Samuel H Son Single M 0 1881 Cradley Worcestershire

[cid]

2 possibles Esthers in 1881 but both servants in other peoples households.

[Northern Lass]

do we have a marriage for george pls wondering it this is him
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =323576115

[Jimmy]

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1859.
GROVES George. STOKES Emma. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/018/394.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1862.
GROVE George. WILKES Emma. Oldswinford, St Mary. Dudley Register Office. 003/007/295.

[mumbles]

George Grove father of Esther Grove is George Grove already on bcc born 1839

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

1851 Census Overend Stourbridge Worcs.
Ann Nock Head 60 (wid) Nail Maker born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Samuel Nock son 18 Pudler born Northfield Staffs.
William Nock son 17 Pudler born Northfield Staffs.
Sarah Grove sister (U) 30 Nail Maker born Rowley Regis Staffs.
George Grove nephew 12 Assistant Chain Maker born Cradley Worcs.
Henry Grove nephew 10 Assistant Chain Maker born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Job Grove nephew 8 Assistant Chain Maker born Rowley Regis Staffs.

1841 Census Overend Halesowen Cradley Stourbridge Worcs.
William Grove 70 Labourer
Esther Grove 60
Sarah Grove 20
George Grove 2
Ann Nock Head 40
Joseph Nock 17 Pudler
Samuel Nock son 7
William Nock son 5
All born Worcs.

[mumbles]

1891 Census Mill Street Cradley Stourbridge Worcs.
Emma Grove Head 50 (wid) Laundress born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Frank Grove son 18 Forge Labourer
Joseph Grove son 12 Scholar
Samuel Grove son 10 Scholar
Rest born born Cradley Worcs.

1901 Census Bannerr's Lane Overend Cradley Stourbridge Worcs.
Emma Grove Head 62(wid) born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Joseph Grove son 22 Iron Chain Striker
Samuel Grove son 20 Tube Fitting Striker
Ellen Grove dau 30 Cook Domestic
Rest born born Cradley Worcs.

1911 Census Off Furlong Lane Cradley Heath Staffs. Cradley Worcs.
George Garratt Head 36 Block Iron Chain Maker
Christeen Garratt wife 37
Edith Garratt dau 10
Daisy Garratt dau 8
George Garratt son 4
Ethel Grove step dau 12
Married 11 years , 3 children , 3 living
Emma Grove mother.in..law (wid) 71 born Rowley Regis Staffs.
REst born Cradley Worcs.

[mumbles]

GARRATTGeorgeGROVEChristeenCradley, St PeterDudley Register Office013/002/330 1899

1861 Census Turnpike Road Cradley Stourbridge Worcs.
George Grove Head 22 Iron Pudler born Cradley Worcs.
Emma Grove wife 20 born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Eliza Grove dau 11 mths. born Cradley Worcs.

[Northern Lass]

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1859.
GROVES George. STOKES Emma. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/018/394.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1862.
GROVE George. WILKES Emma. Oldswinford, St Mary. Dudley Register Office. 003/007/295.

need to just check on marriages before I connect up

then will flag for help adding this lot

[Northern Lass]

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1859.
GROVES George. STOKES Emma. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/018/394.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1862.
GROVE George. WILKES Emma. Oldswinford, St Mary. Dudley Register Office. 003/007/295.

Thanks to Rf for look ups

I didnt expect to see any fathers on certif for George as should be no father or mother sarah

I think it is the 1859 one
what do we think

cos I dont know

18th Dec 1859 St Thomas Dudley
George Groves full bach forgeman Dudley James Groves Labourer
Emma Stokes minor spinster Dudley Benjamin Stokes miner
banns
X both
Wit- X Mary Stokes / X Samuel Bridgewater

and

28 Dec 1862 St Mary Oldswinford
George Grove 22 bach labourer The Lye John Grove Labourer
Emma Wilkes 20 spinster The Lye John Wilkes Labourer
banns
X both
Wit- X John Wilkes/ Ann Wilkes

any clues?

[Northern Lass]

we can connect George up....if it is the correct one later I will do that

but in the meantime pls can anyone add census and kids for george and emma
that will help

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =280114555

[mumbles]

Forgeman for George right
I will add NL

[mumbles]

All Added but not added marriage or connected

[Northern Lass]

Ok thanks mumbles

I have now connected and have added stokes marriage
I will add a note but I think that looks ok for the correct marriage

could anyone add the kids pls for George Garratt
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =655988402

I have added Ethel in already

then we can archive this

[mumbles]

Nl,
Marriage is alright and so is connection to George born 1839
as in Vicars Notes 1857
George is living with Ann Nock and his mother Sarah and Sarah is shown as having George out of Wedlock
with . Also George is shown as courting Emma Stokes aged 16 daughter of Benjamin and Mary