ARC TBC.............Benjamin Garratt b abt 1823

[Northern Lass]

Who does this one belong to?
can anyone see who this Shelagh belongs to?

are they on Bcc?

BENJN. GARRETT Christening: 12 JAN 1823 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: SHELA GARRETT
Mother: SARAH Extracted

[Jimmy]

The only one I can see,

1841. Netherton Hill, Dudley.
Shelah Garratt 60. Nailer.
Elizabeth Garratt 80. n.b.i.c. looks like 60 on image.
Benjamin Garratt 15. Miner.
Eliza Garratt 14. Nailer.
Prudence Garratt 5.
John Garratt 25. n.b.i.c. Nailer.
Edwin Spencer 20. n.b.i.c. Nailer.

[Jimmy]

1851. Upper Netherton.
Sheliah Garratt 69. Nailer.
Elizabeth Garratt 70. Losberry, Shropshire.
John Garratt 47.
Luezah Dapus 7. Grand dau.

Others born Dudley.

[Northern Lass]

thanks Jimmy so he may fit in here..

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =237000942

[Jimmy]

1861. Netherton Hill, Dudley.
Benjamin Garratt 35. Excavator. Netherton.
Emma Garratt 24. Longner, Cardington.
Elizabeth J Garratt 2. Dau. Dudley.
Sarah Ann Garratt 1 MO. Dau. Netherton.

1871. 56 Vauxhall St, Dudley.
Benjamin Garratt 45. Labourer.
Emma Garratt 35. Blackhorot, Shropshire.
Elizabeth Z Garratt 12.
Sarah Garratt 8.
Emma Garratt 5.
Elza A Garratt 6 Months.
John Handley 23.

Others born Dudley.

[Jimmy]

A late marriage,
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1866.
GARATT Benjamin. NEWELL Emma. Rowley Regis, St Giles. Sandwell Register Office. 18/3/393.

Benjamin Garratt.
Groom's Birth Date: 1826.
Groom's Age: 40.
Bride's Name: Emma Newell.
Bride's Birth Date: 1836.
Bride's Age: 30.
Marriage Date: 26 Feb 1866.
Marriage Place: Rowley-Regis, Stafford.
Groom's Father's Name: Corshel Garratt.
Bride's Father's Name: Thomas Henry Newell.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02504-9.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1849594.
Reference Number: item 1 p 197.

[TWG1947]

SEALAH GARROTT
Bapt: 7 OCT 1781
Buried: 16 SEPT 1855
ELIZABETH (Barnett) Mother's name also Elizabeth,
Marriage 19 MAY 1805

HANNAH GARRATT
Bapt: 22 DEC 1805
Married: Joseph Hampton, 25 DEC 1827 St Marys Oldswinford.
Possible, no parents name given.
Witnesses: Stephen & Elizabeth Rollaston

WILLIAM. GARRATT
Bapt: 02 AUG 1807
Buried: 14 JULY 1832

JOHN GARRATT
Bapt: 04 JUN 1809
1881 Census living with his sister Eliza at Simms Lane, Netherton
JOHN GARRATT Lodger 72, unable to work

MARK GARRATT
Bapt: 10 FEB 1811
Buried: 1 APRIL 1896

LUKE GARRATT
Bapt: 18 OCT 1812
Buried: 02 MAR 1814

From here mothers name given as Sarah so could have been Elizabeth Sarah
Or the other way round.

ELIZTH GARRATT
Bapt: 29 JAN 1815
Married: William Willets, 4 NOV 1835.
Possible, no parents names given.
Witnesses: William Tucker, Jane Parsons.

MARY GARRETT
Bapt: 2 FEB 1817

SARAH GARRETT
Bapt: 28 FEB 1819
Marriage: James Guest, 28 MAY 1838
Witnesses: John Greaves, Barbara Garratt.

ANN GARRETT
Bapt: 6 MAY 1821
Marriage: 23 MAY 1841 By banns
Ann Garratt, a minor, spinster, nailer, father Shelias Garratt, nailer.
Benjamin Southall, a minor, bachelor, nailer, father James Southall, nailer.
Both residing Brierley Hill.
Witnesses: James Guest. Richard Bourne.

BENJN GARRETT
Bapt: 12 JAN 1823
Marriage: Eliza Whitehouse, 4 JULY 1845,
father Edward Whitehouse nailer.
Witnesses: Joseph Hill, James Guest.

ELIZA GARRATT
Bapt: 31 DEC 1826
Married: Samuel Capewell

But what happened to him next is hard to say.

[Jimmy]

Deaths Dec 1876.
Garratt Benjamin. age 50. Dudley. 6c. 70.

[dianel]

I think Emma remarried to a David Lovell (widower):

All England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
Emma Garratt
Jan-Feb-Mar 1878 Dudley Staffordshire
David Lovell Jan-Feb-Mar 1878 Dudley Staffordshire

1861. Netherton Hill, Dudley.
Benjamin Garratt 35. Excavator. Netherton.
Emma Garratt 24 b. Longner, Cardington (Cardington is in Shropshire.) (1837)
Elizabeth J Garratt 2. Dau. Dudley. (b. 1859)
Sarah Ann Garratt 1 MO. Dau. Netherton.

1871. 56 Vauxhall St, Dudley.
Benjamin Garratt 45. Labourer.
Emma Garratt 35. Blackhurst, Shropshire (b. 1836)
Elizabeth Z (looks like 'J' on image) Garratt 12. (b. 1959 Dudley)
Sarah Garratt 8.
Emma Garratt 5.
Elza A Garratt 6 Months.
John Handley 23.

1881 at 43 Bond St., Dudley
David Lovell Head 48 Fender Fitter b. Dudley
Emma Lovell Wife 44 b. Shropshire (1837)
Alfred Lovell Son 17 Grinder b. Warwick
William Lovell Son 11 b. Worcs.
Elizabeth Lovell Daur 9 b. Worcs.
Martha Lovell Daur 7 b. Worcs.

1891 at 28 Constitution Hill, Dudley
Henery A Hill Head 34 Malt Maker b. Gloucestershire, Leominster
Elizabeth J Hill 32 Charwoman b. Worcs., Dudley (b. 1859)
Albert E Hill 13
Flora Hill 11
Henery P Hill 9
Frances N Hill 7
Emma L Hill 5
George Hill 2
Frank S Hill 4/12
Emma Lovell Mother Wid 55 Laundress b. Salop (b. 1836)

Can't find a marriage for Henry A. Hill and Elizabeth J. Garratt.
Can't find 1881 census entries for:
Sarah Garratt b. 1863 Dudley,
Emma Garratt b. 1866
Elza (probably 'Eliza') A Garratt 1870/71

[dianel]

So... are we thinking that the Shelah Garratt who marries Elizabeth Barnett and has children with her between 1805 and 1812, is the same Shelah who has children with Sarah between 1815 and 1826?

This would help me out as I've been trying to place the Shelah/Sarah couple for ages.

[Northern Lass]

So... are we thinking that the Shelah Garratt who marries Elizabeth Barnett and has children with her between 1805 and 1812, is the same Shelah who has children with Sarah between 1815 and 1826?

This would help me out as I've been trying to place the Shelah/Sarah couple for ages.

I think it may be

can we post the actual extracted bapts pls for Shelagh and Sarah/Elizabeth

I think we add these to Bcc

also I think that marriage for Emma and Benjamin is Shelagh
but mispelt

Corshela on actual marriage will add details to Bcc thanks to RF for look up

[Northern Lass]

HANNAH GARRATT
Christening: 22 DEC 1805 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: SHELAH GARRATT
Mother: ELIZTH. Extracted birth
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WILLM. GARRATT
Christening: 02 AUG 1807 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: SHELAH GARRATT
Mother: ELIZTH.
Extracted
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JOHN GARRATT Christening: 04 JUN 1809 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: SHELAH GARRATT
Mother: ELIZTH.
Extracted
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MARK GARROTT
Christening: 10 FEB 1811 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: SHELAH GARROTT
Mother: ELIZTH.
Extracted
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LUKE GARRATT
Christening: 18 OCT 1812 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: SHELAH GARRATT
Mother: ELIZTH.
Extracted
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Name changes.....
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ELIZTH. GARRATT
Christening: 29 JAN 1815 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: SHELAH GARRATT
Mother: SARAH
Extracted
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MARY GARRETT
Christening: 02 FEB 1817 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: SHELLY GARRETT
Mother: SARAH Extracted
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SARAH GARRETT
Christening: 28 FEB 1819 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: SHELAH GARRETT
Mother: SARAH
Extracted
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ANN GARRETT
Christening: 06 MAY 1821 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: THELA GARRETT
Mother: SARAH
Extracted
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[Northern Lass]

Do you have details on marriage pls
1838
GARRATT Sarah GUEST James Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/001/354

[Northern Lass]

Ok this is odd

2 marriages with father Shelagh Garratt on the 1845
and then on the 1866 father is Corshela Garratt labourer

on the 1845 bach
on the 1866 bach

wot is really odd is that at both marriages James Guest is wit X of
(this is poss James guest marries benjamins sister Sarah...1838 GARRATT Sarah GUEST James Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/001/354)

I think he marries both of them
even the X of Benjamin is the same to me

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =739236710

is there a death for Eliza Garratt betw 1845 and 1866

[Northern Lass]

I think we have Benjamin Garratt down as Garrad on 1851 Furnace labourer marr in house of Wm and Hannah Yeoman
I think he and Eliza went their separate ways!
he is down as married on 1851 and she is!
he remarries in 1866 as a bach

if anyone can post that1851 for Benjamin would help

and then look here

1849
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HARRIS Thomas GARRATT Eliza Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/001/283


on the 1851 2 houses away from father Edward Whitehouse is this family

1851 Belper Row Darby End
Thomas Harris head mar 28 nailer b Rowley Regis
Eliza Harris wife mar 28 b Dudley
Samuel Harris son 11mths? b Dudley