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ARC TBC..............connecting Kettles to Follis and Hadley
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:39 am
by expat66
Wondered if I could run some connections past you guys?
This Albert KETTLE...
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... tle-Familyhad another son....( this is all from family knowledge)... Alfred Stanley KETTLE born 9 May 1915
In 1947 he married Irene FOLLIS.... Oldbury, Worcs.
He died in 1989 and had 2 children ... Alan and Christine
I have been looking into who Irene FOLLIS was ...
I found a possible birth for an Irene FOLLIS in 1915 West Bromwich ... mother's name HADLEY
and possible parents Walter FOLLIS(1893-1955) and Harriet Fanny HADLEY (1894-1951)
... there are a few trees on 'Ancestry' who have these people ( with some pretty nice photos too!)
possible marriage....for Walter and Harriet...21 Nov 1914
These trees have Harriet's parents as Ephraim HADLEY (1860-1946) and Mary SIVITER (1871-1958)
I wondered if this might be Ephraim?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ley-FamilyDon't know whether this Mary Siviter is on BCC?.... there seem to be several of those!
Off to get my dinner....
Expat

Re: connecting Kettles to Follis and Hadley
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:19 am
by MarkCDodd
My cousins.
No, that Mary Siviter is not yet on BCC.
Ephraim is
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/family-tree/bcconnections/119282/59469/Ephriam-Hadley-FamilyI will fill inthe families and then tackle your Kettle and Folis connection.
Feel free to use any of the pictures and certificates on my tree on Ancestry (Dodd-Cook).
Re: connecting Kettles to Follis and Hadley
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:22 am
by expat66
Thanks Mark,
I did wonder if that was your tree..... as I keep coming across it.
Expat
Re: connecting Kettles to Follis and Hadley
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:32 am
by MarkCDodd
Ephraim and Arthur are actually registered as Taylor though there is no doubt William is their father.
Arthur married Sarah Moretone Taylor who I believe is his 1st cousin....
Re: connecting Kettles to Follis and Hadley
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:43 am
by Northern Lass
So we can add this Alfred to bcc I will add him now
Births Jun 1916
Kettle Alfred S Evans W. Bromwich 6b 1500
Re: connecting Kettles to Follis and Hadley
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:47 am
by Northern Lass
Do you have the marriage expat
Marriages Dec 1947
Follis Irene Kettle Oldbury 9d 432
Hathaway John Watts Oldbury 9d 432
Kettle Alfred S Follis Oldbury 9d 432
WATTS Jean L Hathaway Oldbury 9d 432
Re: connecting Kettles to Follis and Hadley
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:53 am
by Northern Lass
1914 FOLLIS Walter HADLEY Harriet F Oldbury, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 12/7/228
do you have this marriage?
Re: connecting Kettles to Follis and Hadley
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:00 am
by MarkCDodd
Sill populating so reserving judgment on any connections.....
Re: connecting Kettles to Follis and Hadley
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:13 am
by Northern Lass
MarkCDodd wrote:Sill populating so reserving judgment on any connections.....
Which marriages do we need looked up Mark?
Have connected up whilst we add and work through it
do you think that looks ok with dates etc?
add what else you can if you a min
Re: connecting Kettles to Follis and Hadley
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:41 am
by Northern Lass
not sure on Mary Siviters dob or her mother
Samuel married in 1892 is Fanny her mother
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =110729923
Re: connecting Kettles to Follis and Hadley
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:43 am
by MarkCDodd
The pedigree resource file agrees with my research.
I already had it in my tree with a note to double check but this is probably good enough.
name: Walter James /Follis/
gender: Male
birth: Jun 1893
Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire, United Kingdom [3] [1] [4]
birth: ABT 1893
Handsworth, Staffordshire, England [2]
AFN: 039
Parents
father: Alfred J /Follis/ (AFN: 055 )
mother: Emma /Horsefield/ (AFN: 056 )
Marriages (1)
name: Harriet Fanny /Hadley/
gender: Female
birth: Dec 1894
Oldbury, Worcestershire, England [2] [3]
AFN: 040
Parents
father: Ephraim /Hadley/ (AFN: 057 )
mother: Mary /Siviter/
child 1: Irene /Follis/ (AFN: 031 )
gender: Female
birth: 24 Dec 1914
West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
death: May 1996
West Midlands
child 2: Violet Mary /Follis/ (AFN: 011 )
gender: Female
birth: 10 Jul 1920
West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
death: 25 Oct 1986
Rowley Regis, Warley, West Midlands, England
death: Oct 1986
West Midlands
child 3: Emily Maud /Follis/ (AFN: 028 )
gender: Female
birth: 26 May 1916
birth: 26 May 1916
Oldbury, Worcestershire, England
birth: Oldbury, Worcestershire, England
death: 1 Mar 1992
Rowley Regis, Warley, West Midlands
child 4: Freda /Follis/ (AFN: 030 )
gender: Female
birth: 26 Aug 1930
Oldbury, Worcestershire, England
death: Jun 1998
West Midlands
Re: connecting Kettles to Follis and Hadley
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:54 am
by Northern Lass
must be a late marriage for Samuel and Fanny
1871 Stone Street?
Samuel Siviter head mar 29 labourer
Fanny Siviter wife mar 24
Ellen Siviter dau 2
all born Oldbury
trans as Seriter on Ancestry
Re: connecting Kettles to Follis and Hadley
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:56 am
by Jimmy
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1889.
SIVITER Samuel. PINCHIN Fanny. Oldbury, Christ Church. Sandwell Register Office. 12/3/366.
Re: connecting Kettles to Follis and Hadley
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:06 am
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1889.
SIVITER Samuel. PINCHIN Fanny. Oldbury, Christ Church. Sandwell Register Office. 12/3/366.
thanks Jimmy added that
Re: connecting Kettles to Follis and Hadley
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:19 am
by MarkCDodd
Samuel and Fanny were married on the 22 December 1889.
Samuel is a joiner, they live in Birmingham Street, Samuels father, Mark, deceased, was a miner, and Fanny's father George Pinchin, deceased, was a labourer. The witnesses are Joseph Waterhouse and Ann Ford