ARC TBC..............connecting Kettles to Follis and Hadley

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ARC TBC..............connecting Kettles to Follis and Hadley

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Wondered if I could run some connections past you guys? :wink:

This Albert KETTLE...
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... tle-Family

had another son....( this is all from family knowledge)... Alfred Stanley KETTLE born 9 May 1915
In 1947 he married Irene FOLLIS.... Oldbury, Worcs.
He died in 1989 and had 2 children ... Alan and Christine

I have been looking into who Irene FOLLIS was ...
I found a possible birth for an Irene FOLLIS in 1915 West Bromwich ... mother's name HADLEY

and possible parents Walter FOLLIS(1893-1955) and Harriet Fanny HADLEY (1894-1951)
... there are a few trees on 'Ancestry' who have these people ( with some pretty nice photos too!)
possible marriage....for Walter and Harriet...21 Nov 1914

These trees have Harriet's parents as Ephraim HADLEY (1860-1946) and Mary SIVITER (1871-1958)
I wondered if this might be Ephraim?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ley-Family

Don't know whether this Mary Siviter is on BCC?.... there seem to be several of those!

Off to get my dinner....
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Re: connecting Kettles to Follis and Hadley

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My cousins.

No, that Mary Siviter is not yet on BCC.

Ephraim is

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/family-tree/bcconnections/119282/59469/Ephriam-Hadley-Family

I will fill inthe families and then tackle your Kettle and Folis connection.

Feel free to use any of the pictures and certificates on my tree on Ancestry (Dodd-Cook).
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Re: connecting Kettles to Follis and Hadley

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Thanks Mark,
I did wonder if that was your tree..... as I keep coming across it. :P
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Ephraim and Arthur are actually registered as Taylor though there is no doubt William is their father.

Arthur married Sarah Moretone Taylor who I believe is his 1st cousin....
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So we can add this Alfred to bcc I will add him now
Births Jun 1916
Kettle Alfred S Evans W. Bromwich 6b 1500
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Re: connecting Kettles to Follis and Hadley

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Do you have the marriage expat

Marriages Dec 1947
Follis Irene Kettle Oldbury 9d 432
Hathaway John Watts Oldbury 9d 432
Kettle Alfred S Follis Oldbury 9d 432
WATTS Jean L Hathaway Oldbury 9d 432
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1914 FOLLIS Walter HADLEY Harriet F Oldbury, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 12/7/228

do you have this marriage?
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Sill populating so reserving judgment on any connections.....
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MarkCDodd wrote:Sill populating so reserving judgment on any connections.....


Which marriages do we need looked up Mark?

Have connected up whilst we add and work through it

do you think that looks ok with dates etc?
add what else you can if you a min
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not sure on Mary Siviters dob or her mother
Samuel married in 1892 is Fanny her mother
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The pedigree resource file agrees with my research.

I already had it in my tree with a note to double check but this is probably good enough.

name: Walter James /Follis/
gender: Male
birth: Jun 1893
Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire, United Kingdom [3] [1] [4]
birth: ABT 1893
Handsworth, Staffordshire, England [2]
AFN: 039
Parents
father: Alfred J /Follis/ (AFN: 055 )
mother: Emma /Horsefield/ (AFN: 056 )

Marriages (1)
name: Harriet Fanny /Hadley/
gender: Female
birth: Dec 1894
Oldbury, Worcestershire, England [2] [3]
AFN: 040
Parents
father: Ephraim /Hadley/ (AFN: 057 )
mother: Mary /Siviter/

child 1: Irene /Follis/ (AFN: 031 )
gender: Female
birth: 24 Dec 1914
West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
death: May 1996
West Midlands

child 2: Violet Mary /Follis/ (AFN: 011 )
gender: Female
birth: 10 Jul 1920
West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
death: 25 Oct 1986
Rowley Regis, Warley, West Midlands, England
death: Oct 1986
West Midlands

child 3: Emily Maud /Follis/ (AFN: 028 )
gender: Female
birth: 26 May 1916
birth: 26 May 1916
Oldbury, Worcestershire, England
birth: Oldbury, Worcestershire, England
death: 1 Mar 1992
Rowley Regis, Warley, West Midlands

child 4: Freda /Follis/ (AFN: 030 )
gender: Female
birth: 26 Aug 1930
Oldbury, Worcestershire, England
death: Jun 1998
West Midlands
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must be a late marriage for Samuel and Fanny

1871 Stone Street?
Samuel Siviter head mar 29 labourer
Fanny Siviter wife mar 24
Ellen Siviter dau 2
all born Oldbury
trans as Seriter on Ancestry
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West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1889.
SIVITER Samuel. PINCHIN Fanny. Oldbury, Christ Church. Sandwell Register Office. 12/3/366.
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Jimmy wrote:West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1889.
SIVITER Samuel. PINCHIN Fanny. Oldbury, Christ Church. Sandwell Register Office. 12/3/366.

thanks Jimmy added that
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Samuel and Fanny were married on the 22 December 1889.

Samuel is a joiner, they live in Birmingham Street, Samuels father, Mark, deceased, was a miner, and Fanny's father George Pinchin, deceased, was a labourer. The witnesses are Joseph Waterhouse and Ann Ford
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