Siviter Family mystery--Mumbles sorting

[mumbles]

My Aunt Susan Brookes born 1914 married a William Siviter in Autumn 1942 and he died in North Africa in January 1943 .

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =538550466

CWGC record shows that he was born Birmingham and parents were Edward Siviter and Esther Siviter.
and wife Susan of Blackheath Birmingham

Is there any chance that CWGC record is wrong and he was a) born in Blackheath as well and his parents were John Thomas Siviter and Esther Hodgetts
who lived corner from Susan Brookes in 1911
Also there is a William Siviter born 1912 mother Hodgetts and an Thomas Siviter marrying an Esther Hodgetts in 1892 Cradley Heath

I cannot find an Edward Siviter married to an Esther either in Birmingham or Rowley Regis

[MarkCDodd]

I was born in Birmingham even though my parents were living in West Brom.

Place of birth should be near where the parents were living. Blackheath is close enough for him to be born in the nearest major maternity hospital, Birmingham.

As for the parents names on CWGC.....that information is provided by the family so I doubt they got it wrong.

But your evidence is pretty convincing....

Marraige certificate required methinks...

[Antie Em]

According to the 1911 Census, Blackheath was in Birmingham at that time.

59 Beaumont Road, Blackheath, Birmingham

SIVITER, John Thomas Head Married M 43 1868 Miner - Hewer Staffordshire Blackheath
SIVITER, Esther Wife Married
19 years F 45 1866 Hoouse Keeping Staffs Cradley Heath
SIVITER, John Son Single M 17 1894 Pit Bank Labourer Staffordshire Blackheath
SIVITER, May Daughter Single F 18 1893 Staffordshire Blackheath
SIVITER, Blanche Daughter F 11 1900 Staffordshire Blackheath

[MarkCDodd]

That is the Enumerator's assumption.

Registration District is Stourbridge. Sub District is Halesowen. Parish is Cakemore and County is Worcestershire.

Poor Law district is Dudley.

Enumerator should have written Blackheath near Birmingham.

[Northern Lass]

Have they just got the fathers mixed up as hers is Edward

[Northern Lass]

According to the 1911 Census, Blackheath was in Birmingham at that time.

59 Beaumont Road, Blackheath, Birmingham

SIVITER, John Thomas Head Married M 43 1868 Miner - Hewer Staffordshire Blackheath
SIVITER, Esther Wife Married
19 years F 45 1866 Hoouse Keeping Staffs Cradley Heath
SIVITER, John Son Single M 17 1894 Pit Bank Labourer Staffordshire Blackheath
SIVITER, May Daughter Single F 18 1893 Staffordshire Blackheath
SIVITER, Blanche Daughter F 11 1900 Staffordshire Blackheath

Can't see this lot on Bcc need that marriage looked up

[Jimmy]

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1891.
SIVITER John T. GROVE Esther. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register. Office 204/040/126.

[Northern Lass]

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1891.
SIVITER John T. GROVE Esther. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register. Office 204/040/126.

There is this marriage too ....

1892 SIVITER Thomas HODGETTS Esther Old Hill , Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 19/2/115

Births Dec 1912
Siviter William Hodgetts Dudley 6c 52

[Northern Lass]

I think you are going to have to send for that 1942 marriage for Wm Siviter to see his fathers name

I have had a marriage looked up thanks RF

It looks to me like the one on the 1911
and I cant see a Wm Siviter with mother Grove

marriage
30 August 1891 St Thomas Dudley
John Thomas Siviter 23 bach miner Netherton Thomas Siviter miner
Esther Grove 26 spinster Netherton George Grove Forgeman
Banns
both signed
Wit- X Thomas Knight/ X Alice Knight

those wits ring a bell

[Northern Lass]

My Aunt Susan Brookes born 1914 married a William Siviter in Autumn 1942 and he died in North Africa in January 1943 .

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =538550466

CWGC record shows that he was born Birmingham and parents were Edward Siviter and Esther Siviter.
and wife Susan of Blackheath Birmingham

Is there any chance that CWGC record is wrong and he was a) born in Blackheath as well and his parents were John Thomas Siviter and Esther Hodgetts
who lived corner from Susan Brookes in 1911
Also there is a William Siviter born 1912 mother Hodgetts and an Thomas Siviter marrying an Esther Hodgetts in 1892 Cradley Heath

I cannot find an Edward Siviter married to an Esther either in Birmingham or Rowley Regis

Mumbles if you have a look at the Elsie siviter thread I think that is your Thomas Siviter and Esther Hodgetts

where did you get the name John Thomas from?

he is Thomas on 1911 with Esther