Query can I have your views pls---NL to add

[Northern Lass]

I have this marriage here..

25 December 1824 St Mary, Oldswinford
James HomerX of this parish Bachelor
Harriet DoddX of this parish Spinster
Wit: Barnabus HomerX, Maria Nicklins X

I don't know who James belongs to I wondered if this Joshua
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =918572143

but I dont know

My query is the wits here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =250729619

do we think that Barnabus is son of Barnabus here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

[FarSide]

Poss are -:
07 APR 1805 Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley - Parents William Homer & Elizabeth
14 AUG 1808 Cradley, Worcester - Parent Tamar Homer
09 OCT 1808 Saint Thomas, Dudley - Parents Joshua Homer & Mary
16 AUG 1805 Rowley Regis - Submitted, I don't see this one on the disc.


1841
Cradley forge, Halesowen
Jas Homer 35 - Nailer
Harriot Homer 35
Eliza Homer 12
Esther Homer 7
Jas Homer 8
Henry Homer 2
Edward Homer 1 MO
all b in c

1851
Cradley forge, Cradley
James Homer 46 - Nailer - b Kingswinford
Harriett Homer 47 - b Oldswinford
Esther Homer 19
Henry Homer 11 - Chainmaker
Edward Homer 9 - Chainmaker
Adam Homer 8
John Homer 6
Harriett Homer 2
others b Cradley

1860
HOMER Harriet HILL Joseph Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/002/409

1861
Cradley forge, Cradley
Josh Hill 35 - Ag lab - b Red Marly?, Worcestershire
Harriett Hill 50 - b Oldswinford (def states 50)
Adam Homer 17
John Homer 15
Harriett Homer 12
others b Cradley

next door
Henry Homer 21 - Puddler
Elizabeth Homer 23 - b Woodgate
James Homer 2
Louisa Homer 9 mths
others b Cradley

1858
HOMER Henry HUNT Elizabeth Dudley, St James Dudley Register Office 202/002/338

Rev's notebook 1857
Hammer Forge
James - Forge, no church
Harriet - no church, sister to Elizabeth Attwood wife of William Attwood
Henry, 18, puddler, no church
Edward, 16, puddler, no church
Adam, 14, iron, new connexion, Westwood school
John, 11, iron, no school
Harriet, 9, was new connexion, home, Westwood school
Elizabeth Hunt - Maid, church sometimes

[FarSide]

Extracted
other kids of Barnabus & Hannah

Name: Phebe Homer
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 02 Apr 1800
Baptism/Christening Place: PARK LANE PRESBYTERIAN,CRADLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 10 Aug 1797

Name: Nanny Homer
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 08 Apr 1804
Baptism/Christening Place: PARK LANE PRESBYTERIAN,CRADLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND

Name: Mary Homer
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 16 Jun 1793
Baptism/Christening Place: PARK LANE PRESBYTERIAN,CRADLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 10 May 1791

Name: Barnabas Homer
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 02 Apr 1800
Baptism/Christening Place: PARK LANE PRESBYTERIAN,CRADLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 09 Jan 1795

[MarkCDodd]

A lot of those Homers were Presbyterian so that is probably the right track.

Lets see if I have this mob in my notes....

[Northern Lass]

I added Mark as son of Barnabus and Hannah
but he is bapt at Presbyterian in Cradley
and yet Wm Hannah and Eli bapt at St Peters Cradley

are they all from same family do we think?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

and the ones above

[MarkCDodd]

I have, as Barnabus and Hannah's children

Mark and Mary baptised 16th June 1793 Park Lane Presbyterian

Barnaby, Hannah and Phoebe baptised 2nd April 1800 Park Lane Presbyterian

Nanny baptised 8th April 1804 Park Lane Prebyterian

Eli, Hannah, Jesse (boy) and William all baptised 18th May 1810 at St Peters in Cradley.

[Northern Lass]

thanks I will add them to Bcc then
and connect up Barnabus on Bcc already

[Northern Lass]

Just wondering do you think this is the correct Barnabus to connect to Barnabus and Hannah
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =867971958

[MarkCDodd]

Just looking at the parish register and they have some of the dates of birth.

Mary born 10th May 1791.

Phoebe born 10th August 1797

I can't find Barnabus/Barnaby in the register in 1800 or any other time.

[MarkCDodd]

Ooops...found Barnanbus in the register....he is missing from the index.

Born January 9th 1795. Barnabus and Hannah near Netherend, Cradeley are his parents. Same description for Phoebe and Hannah.

There is another Barnabus Homer born about 1805 living in the same area.

[MarkCDodd]

There is this guy.

1841 census transcription details for: Waste Bank, Old Swinford
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 1198 Book/Folio: 9/7 Page: 7

Reg. District: Stourbridge Sub District: Stourbridge
Parish: Old Swinford Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Waste Bank, Old Swinford
County: Worcestershire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
HOMER, Barnebus M 45 1796 Worcestershire
HOMER, Jane F 45 1796 Worcestershire

and this one

1841 census transcription details for: Rider's Green, West Bromwich
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 978 Book/Folio: 7/28 Page: 7

Reg. District: West Bromwich Sub District: West Bromwich South West
Parish: West Bromwich Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Rider's Green, West Bromwich
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
HOMER, Barnabas M 40 1801 Staffordshire
HOMER, Mary F 45 1796
HOMER, William M 14 1827
HOMER, Ester F 12 1829
HOMER, Barnabas M 7 1834
HOMER, Mark M 9 1832

and this one

1841 census transcription details for: Merry Hill, Kingswinford
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 996 Book/Folio: 13/18 Page: 2

Reg. District: Stourbridge Sub District: Kingswinford
Parish: Kingswinford Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Merry Hill, Kingswinford
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
HOMER, Barnabas M 35 1806 Staffordshire
HOMER, Maria F 30 1811 Staffordshire
HOMER, Rhoda F 13 1828 Staffordshire
HOMER, Barnabas M 9 1832 Staffordshire
HOMER, Rosana F 6 1835 Staffordshire
HOMER, Benjn M 4 1837 Staffordshire

[MarkCDodd]

Groom's Name: Barnabas Homer
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Jane Pearson
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 16 Apr 1815
Marriage Place: Oldswinford, Worcester, England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01321-0
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 350490
Reference Number: P80 No241

Groom's Name: Barnabas Homer
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Mary Rhodes
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 31 May 1830
Marriage Place: Dudley, Worcester, England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Widowed
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Widowed
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01901-5
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 350609
Reference Number: pg. 124 - # 370

Groom's Name: Barnabas Homer
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Maria Nickless
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 13 Feb 1825
Marriage Place: Old Swinford, Worcester, England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03889-6
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 350498
Reference Number:

[MarkCDodd]

I would say the Barnabus on BCC is the 1805 one, not the son of Barnabus and Hannah.

[MarkCDodd]

Name: Barnabas Homer
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1875
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: Stourbridge
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 101

Name: Barnabas Homer
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1883
Age at Death: 78
Registration district: Stourbridge
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 110

[MarkCDodd]

There is one born abt 1802 in Hereford in the Stourbridge Union Workshouse in the 1871 census. (Depressing how many Homers there are in there...).

That would not be the one married to Jane in the 1841 census.

They had a daughter Elizabeth and he is living with her in 1871.

Name: Elizabeth Homer
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 28 Mar 1819
Baptism/Christening Place: Worcester, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Barnabas Homer
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Jane Homer
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00892-7
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 350494
Reference Number: p 297, #2373

1871 census transcription details for: Love Lane, Lye
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10 Piece: 3024 Folio: 45 Page: 36

Reg. District: Stourbridge Sub District: Stourbridge
Parish: Lye Enum. District: 17
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Love Lane, Lye
County: Worcestershire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
ROBBINS, Elizabeth Head F 52 1819 Worcestershire
ROBBINS, Elizabeth Daughter F 15 1856 Worcestershire
HOMER, Barnabas Father M 77 1794 Worcestershire

Looking at the image, Lye is the town of birth for Barnabas.