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Re: Shelah Garrett -

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Thomas chn 1705 d Feb 1779 and Hannah chn 21 Aug 1715. d 1811 (Smith).


THOMAS GARRATT
Gender: Male Marriage: 21 JUN 1736 Rowley Regis, Stafford,


ANNE GARRATT
Gender: Female Christening: 07 AUG 1737 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

THOMAS GARRATT
Gender: Male Christening: 28 OCT 1740 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

SAMUEL GARRATT
Gender: Male Christening: 08 JAN 1744 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Died 1748

SHELAH GARRATT
Gender: Male Christening: 07 DEC 1746 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

DEBORAH-HANNAH GARRATT
Gender: Female Christening: 18 FEB 1750 Rowley Regis, Stafford

WILLIAM-JOHN GARRATT
Gender: Male Christening: 29 JUL 1753 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

PARTHENIA GARRATT
Gender: Female Christening: 17 FEB 1758 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

JULIUS GARRATT
Gender: Male Christening: 07 JUN 1761 Rowley Regis, Stafford,



Shelah chn1746 and Mary chn 21 April 1749 (Bennet)


SHELAH GARRET
Gender: Male Marriage: 29 DEC 1768 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
MARY BENNET
Gender: Female Christening: 21 APR 1749 Old Mtg House-Nc, Dudley, Worcester,


THOMAS GARRAT.
Gender: Male Christening: 1 MAR 1769 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

SAML GARRETT
Gender: Male Christening: 27 SEP 1772 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester
Buried 22 AUG 1777.Rowley Regis

SELAH GARRATT
Gender: Male Christening: 24 APR 1774 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Buried 22 AUG 1777 Rowley Regis

MARY GARRETT
Gender: Female Christening: 01 AUG 1784 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

JOHN GARRET -
Gender: Male Christening: 25 DEC 1776 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

HANNAH GARROTT
Gender: Female Christening: 28 AUG 1778 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

JULIUS GARRETT
Gender: Male Christening: 08 OCT 1786 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

SEALAH GARROTT
Gender: Male Christening: 07 OCT 1781 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

SAMUEL GARROTT
Gender: Male Christening: 07 OCT 1781 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,


NOTE: Before these records there are no other Garratts recorded in Netherton, we went back as far as 1713, and given the variations in name spelling it would appear that they are the first Garratts there.
The registrar most likely wrote the names Shelah and Garratt 'phonetically'.
It was also more than likely that Shelah came up to Netherton to marry Mary Bennett.


Daughter of William and Susanna Garratt.
The only other Garratts on the register at this time.
Possibly Shelahs brother born 1753.

SARAH GARRETT
Gender: Female Christening: 28 FEB 1796 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,


Shelah chn 1781 and Elizabeth (Barnett)

Marriage: 19 MAY 1805 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,


HANNAH GARRATT
Christening: 22 DEC 1805 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

WILLM. GARRATT
Christening: 02 AUG 1807 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

JOHN GARRATT
Christening: 04 JUN 1809 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

MARK GARRATT
Christening: 10 FEB 1811 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

LUKE GARRATT
Christening: 18 OCT 1812 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,



Mark chn 1811 and Elizabeth chn 13 June 1819 (Stevens) Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,


In 1841:

Street address: Upper Netherton

Mark Garratt M 25-29 Furnaceman
Elizabeth Garratt F 20-24 b1819 (Stevens)
Samuel Garratt M 3 b1838
Mark Garratt M 3 days b1841


In 1851:

Street address: Upper Netherton

Mark Garratt 40 Labourer
Elizabeth Garratt 33 Labourer Wife
Mary Ann Garratt 15 Labourer Daur b1836
Samuel Garratt 12 Labourer Son b1838
Mark Garratt 10 Labourer Son b1841
Fanny Garratt 7 Labourer Daur b1844
William Garratt 4 Labourer Son b1847
Shelah Garratt 2 Labourer Son b1849

Must assume that Mary Ann was living somewhere else at the time of the 1841 census, maybe because of the birth of Mark made space tight.


In 1861:

Street address: Croft, Netherton Hill

Mark Garratt 50 Labourer
Betsy Garratt 43
Fanny Garratt 17
William Garratt 14 Coal Miner
Shelah Garatt 12 Cripple
Elizabeth Garratt 9 Nailer abt1852
Hannah Garratt 6 Scholar abt1855
Benjamin Garratt 4 Scholar abt1857


In 1871:

Street address: 2 Hurleys Fold

Mark Garratt 59 Furnaceman
Elizabeth Garratt 54
Elizabeth Garratt 19
Hannah Garratt 17
Benjamin Garratt 14 Furnaceman
Thomas France Lodger 28 Furnaceman
Fanny France Wife 27 Nailer
Thomas Fran 6 Scholar
Emily France 4 Scholar
Harriet France


1881:

Street address: 2 Hurleys Fold

Mark GARRATT 70 Pauper.
Elizabeth GARRATT 65
Joseph DERGRAGE Lodger 40 General Labourer



Mark chn 1841, ( 3 days old at the time of the 1841census). Elizabeth (Davis)

In 1861

Netherton Hill, Netherton.

Mark Garratt 19 Labourer
Elizabeth Garratt 19 (Nee Davis)

Living at Netherton Hill with Elizabeths mother, also named Elizabeth a nailmaker, age 50, along with:
Joseph Davis
Thomas Davis
Ann
Edward
John


In 1871

No Records.


In 1881

Hill Street, Netherton

Mark Garratt 39 Blast Furnaceman
Elizabeth Garratt 38 Nail Maker
William 17 Labourer in Ironworks
Mark Garratt 14 Labourer in Ironworks
Benjamin 11 Scholar
Shelah 9 dto
Alfred 6 dto
Samuel 5 dto
Henry 3


In 1891

54 St Johns Street, Netherton.

Mark Garratt 49 Blast Furnaceman
Elizabeth Garratt 49
Benjamin 27 Shoe Maker/Mender (Nickname Dubba)
Shelah 19 General Labourer (Nickname Shellyguy)
Alfred 17 General Labourer
Samuel 15 General Labourer
Henry 13 Scholar
Job 11 dto
John 9 dto
Joseph 6 dto (My Grandafather, worked at
Round Oak Steelworks)

In 1901

54 St Johns Street, Netherton.

Mark Garratt 61 Blast Furnaceman
Shelah 30 General Labourer
Alfred 27 dto
Thomas (is this John, same age ?) 19 dto
Joseph 16 dto
William Davis, boarder 29 dto
Walter Davis, visitor 24 dto

Presume the Davis brothers are related to Marks wife.

Mark was a big church going man; they peeled the bells at his funeral, so my father told me,
Supposedly has an inscription somewhere in St Giles.
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Re: Shelah Garrett -

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TWG1947 wrote:Thomas chn 1705 d Feb 1779 and Hannah chn 21 Aug 1715. d 1811 (Smith).


THOMAS GARRATT
Gender: Male Marriage: 21 JUN 1736 Rowley Regis, Stafford,


ANNE GARRATT
Gender: Female Christening: 07 AUG 1737 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

THOMAS GARRATT
Gender: Male Christening: 28 OCT 1740 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

SAMUEL GARRATT
Gender: Male Christening: 08 JAN 1744 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Died 1748

SHELAH GARRATT
Gender: Male Christening: 07 DEC 1746 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

DEBORAH-HANNAH GARRATT
Gender: Female Christening: 18 FEB 1750 Rowley Regis, Stafford

WILLIAM-JOHN GARRATT
Gender: Male Christening: 29 JUL 1753 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

PARTHENIA GARRATT
Gender: Female Christening: 17 FEB 1758 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

JULIUS GARRATT
Gender: Male Christening: 07 JUN 1761 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

on bcc already
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =567093344

Shelah chn1746 and Mary chn 21 April 1749 (Bennet)


SHELAH GARRET
Gender: Male Marriage: 29 DEC 1768 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
MARY BENNET
Gender: Female Christening: 21 APR 1749 Old Mtg House-Nc, Dudley, Worcester,


THOMAS GARRAT.
Gender: Male Christening: 1 MAR 1769 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

SAML GARRETT
Gender: Male Christening: 27 SEP 1772 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester
Buried 22 AUG 1777.Rowley Regis

SELAH GARRATT
Gender: Male Christening: 24 APR 1774 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Buried 22 AUG 1777 Rowley Regis

MARY GARRETT
Gender: Female Christening: 01 AUG 1784 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

JOHN GARRET -
Gender: Male Christening: 25 DEC 1776 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

HANNAH GARROTT
Gender: Female Christening: 28 AUG 1778 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

JULIUS GARRETT
Gender: Male Christening: 08 OCT 1786 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

SEALAH GARROTT
Gender: Male Christening: 07 OCT 1781 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

SAMUEL GARROTT
Gender: Male Christening: 07 OCT 1781 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,


allready on bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =266204106

NOTE: Before these records there are no other Garratts recorded in Netherton, we went back as far as 1713, and given the variations in name spelling it would appear that they are the first Garratts there.
The registrar most likely wrote the names Shelah and Garratt 'phonetically'.
It was also more than likely that Shelah came up to Netherton to marry Mary Bennett.


Daughter of William and Susanna Garratt.
The only other Garratts on the register at this time.
Possibly Shelahs brother born 1753.

SARAH GARRETT
Gender: Female Christening: 28 FEB 1796 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,



Shelah chn 1781 and Elizabeth (Barnett)

Marriage: 19 MAY 1805 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,


HANNAH GARRATT
Christening: 22 DEC 1805 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

WILLM. GARRATT
Christening: 02 AUG 1807 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

JOHN GARRATT
Christening: 04 JUN 1809 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

MARK GARRATT
Christening: 10 FEB 1811 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

LUKE GARRATT
Christening: 18 OCT 1812 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

all ready on bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =483267874


Mark chn 1811 and Elizabeth chn 13 June 1819 (Stevens) Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,


In 1841:

Street address: Upper Netherton

Mark Garratt M 25-29 Furnaceman
Elizabeth Garratt F 20-24 b1819 (Stevens)
Samuel Garratt M 3 b1838
Mark Garratt M 3 days b1841


In 1851:

Street address: Upper Netherton

Mark Garratt 40 Labourer
Elizabeth Garratt 33 Labourer Wife
Mary Ann Garratt 15 Labourer Daur b1836
Samuel Garratt 12 Labourer Son b1838
Mark Garratt 10 Labourer Son b1841
Fanny Garratt 7 Labourer Daur b1844
William Garratt 4 Labourer Son b1847
Shelah Garratt 2 Labourer Son b1849

Must assume that Mary Ann was living somewhere else at the time of the 1841 census, maybe because of the birth of Mark made space tight.


In 1861:

Street address: Croft, Netherton Hill

Mark Garratt 50 Labourer
Betsy Garratt 43
Fanny Garratt 17
William Garratt 14 Coal Miner
Shelah Garatt 12 Cripple
Elizabeth Garratt 9 Nailer abt1852
Hannah Garratt 6 Scholar abt1855
Benjamin Garratt 4 Scholar abt1857


In 1871:

Street address: 2 Hurleys Fold

Mark Garratt 59 Furnaceman
Elizabeth Garratt 54
Elizabeth Garratt 19
Hannah Garratt 17
Benjamin Garratt 14 Furnaceman
Thomas France Lodger 28 Furnaceman
Fanny France Wife 27 Nailer
Thomas Fran 6 Scholar
Emily France 4 Scholar
Harriet France


1881:

Street address: 2 Hurleys Fold

Mark GARRATT 70 Pauper.
Elizabeth GARRATT 65
Joseph DERGRAGE Lodger 40 General Labourer

all ready on bcc in 1891 mark was living with daug hannah (snead)

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =310168091





heres the marriage put it on for look up to verify fathers

GARROT Mark DAVIES Elizabeth 1860 Rowley Regis, St Giles West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 18/3/58


Mark chn 1841, ( 3 days old at the time of the 1841census). Elizabeth (Davis)

In 1861

Netherton Hill, Netherton.

Mark Garratt 19 Labourer
Elizabeth Garratt 19 (Nee Davis)

Living at Netherton Hill with Elizabeths mother, also named Elizabeth a nailmaker, age 50, along with:
Joseph Davis
Thomas Davis
Ann
Edward
John


In 1871

No Records.


In 1881

Hill Street, Netherton

Mark Garratt 39 Blast Furnaceman
Elizabeth Garratt 38 Nail Maker
William 17 Labourer in Ironworks
Mark Garratt 14 Labourer in Ironworks
Benjamin 11 Scholar
Shelah 9 dto
Alfred 6 dto
Samuel 5 dto
Henry 3


In 1891

54 St Johns Street, Netherton.

Mark Garratt 49 Blast Furnaceman
Elizabeth Garratt 49
Benjamin 27 Shoe Maker/Mender (Nickname Dubba)
Shelah 19 General Labourer (Nickname Shellyguy)
Alfred 17 General Labourer
Samuel 15 General Labourer
Henry 13 Scholar
Job 11 dto
John 9 dto
Joseph 6 dto (My Grandafather, worked at
Round Oak Steelworks)

In 1901

54 St Johns Street, Netherton.

Mark Garratt 61 Blast Furnaceman
Shelah 30 General Labourer
Alfred 27 dto
Thomas (is this John, same age ?) 19 dto
Joseph 16 dto
William Davis, boarder 29 dto
Walter Davis, visitor 24 dto

Presume the Davis brothers are related to Marks wife.

Mark was a big church going man; they peeled the bells at his funeral, so my father told me,
Supposedly has an inscription somewhere in St Giles.
A person should have an opinion on everything, It becomes tact whether you reveal that opinion or not.

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Re: Shelah Garrett -

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1881 Hill Street Dudley, Worcester

Mark GARRATT 39 Netherton, Worcester, Blast Furnace Man
Elizabeth GARRATT 38 Netherton, Worcester, Nail Maker
William GARRATT 17 Netherton, Worcester, Labourer Iron Works
Mark GARRATT 14 Netherton, Worcester, Labourer Iron Works
Benjamin GARRATT 11 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Sholah GARRATT 9 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Alfred GARRATT 6 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Samuel GARRATT 5 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar
Henry GARRATT 3 Netherton, Worcester,


re posted 1881 for birth details TWG couldnt find these on 1871 anyone find them please, poss transcript error


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Re: Shelah Garrett -

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Correction to my post the inscription should have read in St Andrews Rowley Regis.

I am posting photos of Elizabeth Garratt b.1852, sister to Mark b.1841(my Gt Grandfather)

I have a photo of Mark which has to be repaired before I can post.

Any more photos of this line of Garratts out there ?
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Correction to my correction St Andrews is in Netherton !!!!

Some days my fingers won't type what my brain tells them !!!
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Re: Shelah Garrett -

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It is St Andrews Dudley at the Archives in Dudley
and Church is in Netherton
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Re: Shelah Garrett -

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Are we still looking for info on this?
Can it be archived?
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Re: Shelah Garrett -

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There is no date given for here burial of his first 2 children Saml and Selah.(Unless I've missed it)
This is 22 Aug 1777 at Rowley Regis.
He is listed as Shell Garratt.
From rowley Regis transcripts Pg 657.
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TWG1947 wrote:There is no date given for here burial of his first 2 children Saml and Selah.(Unless I've missed it)
This is 22 Aug 1777 at Rowley Regis.
He is listed as Shell Garratt.
From rowley Regis transcripts Pg 657.



so your saying both samuel and selah were buired on the same day ?



SAML GARRETT
Gender: Male Christening: 27 SEP 1772 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester
Buried 22 AUG 1777.Rowley Regis

SELAH GARRATT
Gender: Male Christening: 24 APR 1774 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Buried 22 AUG 1777 Rowley Regis
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Re: Shelah Garrett -

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I'm not saying that, the records for Rowley Regis are stating that.
Look it up.
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TWG1947 wrote:I'm not saying that, the records for Rowley Regis are stating that.
Look it up.



i didnt want to write an essay all i was asking was youve seen the pr and its says that for both ?
just wanted to verify what was posted
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Flagging to now archive this
so unless otherwise advised this will be moved to archived section within 24 hrs
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Re: UPDATE look up done for PD-Shelah Garrett -

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have done the look up for PD and entered it along with info on Elizabeth Davies parents here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =138992004

not sure if anyone wishes to run any more with this?

or if anyone wishes to add a marriage for William Davies and Elizabeth unknown that would be useful
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Re: UPDATE look up done for PD-Shelah Garrett -

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find these in 1841 and 51 please


1861, Netherton Hill, Netherton.

Elizabeth Davis 50 Nailmaker
Joseph Davis
Thomas Davis
Ann Davis
Edward Davis
John Davis
Mark Garratt 19 Labourer
Elizabeth Garratt 19 (Nee Davis)
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couple of marriages need to know the ages on that 1861 of those kids
but there is an Elizabeth Troman or Woodward marrying 1830's
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