ARC TBC...............Walter Taylor, B 10 April 1845

[linell]

Have been on there for years, I get everywhere. The Poster is a Lizzie, is that you

Linell.

no its her daugther and yes what are you doing on rootschat and abondoning us

1841 Census
Sweet ? St, St Mary de Lode, Gloucestershire
HO107/379/7/St Mary De Lode
John TAYLOR, 25, Iron Moulder
Elizabeth, 25
William, 5
Mary Ann, 2
Jane, 5mths
Mary Ann/Jane born in County, the others are not born in County.

Jane may have died 1841-1851.

Was Elizabeth nee Baker or Nickless?

hi Trish, Elizabeth's surname was Baker. Lizzie

DT how does your daug know is baker elizabeth surname ?

Ooop sorry Pete, will be back soon, just bought a Blackberry and can't leave that alone at the moment, new Toy with loads of Apps. You have done really well with this tree, take a bow.

[peterd]

1841. t Mary de Lode, Gloucester City, Gloucestershire.

John Taylor 25. Iron moulder.
Elizabeth Taylor 25.
William Taylor 5.
Mary Ann Taylor 2. Gloucestershire.
James Taylor 5 Mo.
Others not born in county



1851. St John's Rd, Dudley.

Jno Taylor 36. Iron moulder.
Elizbth Taylor 35.
Willm Taylor 15. Son. Iron moulder.
Mary Ann Taylor 12. Dau. Lowesby, Gloucestershire.
Alfred Taylor 8. Son.
Walter Taylor 6. Son.
Julia Taylor 3. Dau.
Emily Taylor 2. Dau.
others born Dudley, .

can we find these in later census please they are not the previous post

anyone find a christening or register birth for the above kids ?

[peterd]

poss julia

TAYLOR Julia E 1847 Dudley (DUD) West Midlands Dudley Register Office DUD/029/437

but i think there another one around same age


poss marriage

TAYLOR Julia BAYMAN William 1869 Lower Gornal, St James West Midlands Dudley Register Office 215/003/57

[dudleytaylor]

hi Because she got it from me and i thought i had told you all, must of slipped my mind. When i first started my tree ,I am so naive , I bought my first certificate from Ancestry cost me a fortune, Any way it was Walter Taylor,Born 10 April 1845, Born Worcester mother Elizabeth Baker, John Taylor Moulder. I'm sure i told you. Any way Trish not as good as Pete

[dudleytaylor]

my granddaughter who as a A* in science says Blackberrys are crapp, and Samsung are best.Dt

[dudleytaylor]

in case i forgot to say, Walter was born 140 Commandery Street Worcester , which i have been told is now Wylds Lane. Where Vesta Tilly was born , and its quite known in the Badley family that somewhere we are related to her probably through her mother, but no one is good enough to find the connection. Dt.

[dudleytaylor]

hi Thought i would just like to tell you that you have my second great grandmother on your Bcc, Her name is Abigail Hodgkiss. It is on my mothers side and she was married to Francis TAYLOR born 1908 Walters grandchild, Dt

[Northern Lass]

hi Thought i would just like to tell you that you have my second great grandmother on your Bcc, Her name is Abigail Hodgkiss. It is on my mothers side and she was married to Francis TAYLOR born 1908 Walters grandchild, Dt

can you post the link from Bcc for both of them and I can look at connecting them
unless pete is around as not up to speed with this post

do we have the marriage info or do you Dt?

[peterd]

hi Because she got it from me and i thought i had told you all, must of slipped my mind. When i first started my tree ,I am so naive , I bought my first certificate from Ancestry cost me a fortune, Any way it was Walter Taylor,Born 10 April 1845, Born Worcester mother Elizabeth Baker, John Taylor Moulder. I'm sure i told you. Any way Trish not as good as Pete

im abit concerned that birth cert you have could be this one ? as father is iron ? labourer could be moulder the same as your john and there living in the worcester area

this is also poss the marriage for the couple in census below if ages are out ?or eliza / elizabeth maybe second marriage ?

John Taylor
Elizabeth Baker

Marriage Date: 28 Sep 1835
Marriage Place: Saint Alban,Worcester,Worcester,England

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01379-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 0599888 IT 4, 354316



your john and elizabeth have kids born dudley and they are there in 1851 census ?

1851 (page hard to read)
Creswells? Building, St Andrew (Little Fish Street on next page)
John Taylor 36 - Iron? labourer - b Bromsgrove
Eliza Taylor 30 - b Ombersley
Ellen Taylor 7
Walter Taylor 5
Harriet Taylor 3
Emma Taylor 10 Mo
John Green 29 - Lodger - Journeyman ?? - b Bromsgrove
James D Cooper 24 - Lodger - Journeyman ?? - b ?
others b Worcester

1861
Palace Row, St Albans
John Taylor 46 - Porter - b Herefordshire
Elizabeth Taylor 40 - Seamstress - b Ombersley?
Ellen Taylor 17 - Shoe binder
Walter Taylor 15 - Glover
Harriot Taylor 13
Emma Taylor 11
John Taylor 8
Charles Taylor 6
William Taylor 3
others b Worcester

think we need some chirstenings or births

[peterd]

hi Thought i would just like to tell you that you have my second great grandmother on your Bcc, Her name is Abigail Hodgkiss. It is on my mothers side and she was married to Francis TAYLOR born 1908 Walters grandchild, Dt

only one i can see is born 1825 ?

[dudleytaylor]

Hi , getting really confused now. First explain Abigail HODGKISS 1824, My mother, Margaret Hughes 1920, Father Jacob Hughes, mother Florence Spiers. Jacobs Father: William Hughes 1848, mother Mary Ann Darby. Williams Father:Thomas Hughes1822, Mother ABIGAIL HODGKISS 1824. My mother married Francis Herbert Taylor 1908 on the 1 dec 1945.

Started new post for Above

Walter Taylor He was born in Worcester in Worcestershire in 1845 . In the 1911 census he writes in his own hand that he was born there,and his birth is 1845. The family that live in Worcester at the same time John Taylor Hereford labourer
Elizabeth Patrick Ombersley are not hiWalter Taylor was born about 1846 - son of John & Elizabeth Taylor. Walter would have been 15 years when he became an apprentice to learn the trade of Glove Cutter in Worcester, England.
Walter married Ann Maria Drinkwater and they had one daughter - Florence Jane Taylor - who was born in Worcester in 1873.
By the 1881 census when Florence was 8 years, Walters wife was listed as Louisa.
Walter came to NZ as a Glove Cutter assisted by the Government of New Zealand to Canterbury - he was going to join his brother Charles who was already in Christchurch. Walter paid 5 pound himself and the cost to the NZ Government was 22 pound 15 shillings each for he and Florence - his sponsernumber was 901 Canterbury.
Walter aged 36 years, with Florence aged 10 years left Plymouth, England on the ship "Waitangi" on the 27 October 1883 and arrived in Lyttleton, NZ on 12th January 1884. Florence slept on a bunk with another young lady - Emma Spinner aged 18 years. The Waitangi had two decks and 3 masts and was well founded with very fine accommodation. They had fine weather on the voyage.
Walter was a sponser for the Baptism of Joseph Archibald Macfarlane (Arch) - his grandson, on 30 September 1894.s Family This is their Walter

[dudleytaylor]

Done this really fast hope you can under stand it Hope it explains that my walter is not the same one. Dt

[Jimmy]

1851. St John's Rd, Dudley.
Jno Taylor 36. Iron moulder.
Elizbth Taylor 35.
Willm Taylor 15. Son. Iron moulder. should be Worcester.
Mary Ann Taylor 12. Dau. Lowesby, Gloucestershire.
Alfred Taylor 8. Son. should be Worcester.
Walter Taylor 6. Son. should be Worcester.
Julia Taylor 3. Dau. Dudley.
Emily Taylor 2. Dau. Dudley.

All others born Dudley, Worcestershire.

This is the only Walter Taylor born in Worcs at the right time, It looks to me as if this is the right family in 1851, but it as wrong birth places for 3 of the children.

Births Dec 1843.
TAYLOR Alfred John. Worcester. 18. 529.

Births Jun 1845.
TAYLOR Walter. Worcester. 18. 510.

Births Dec 1847.
TAYLOR Julia Emma. Dudley. 18. 220.

Births Jun 1849.
TAYLOR Emily. Dudley. 18. 298.

[peterd]

Done this really fast hope you can under stand it Hope it explains that my walter is not the same one. Dt

hi dt we know there are two walter taylor with parents john and elizabeth and the other when to OZ (glover) but as we dont have your previous research or knowledge we have to work through it step by step as the 1851 census was indicating born dudley i want to make sure there birth werent getting confused this happends so many times


now jimmy as revised that 1851 census and found the births to cobarate it

do you have the marriage detials for john and elizabeth

[Jimmy]

John Taylor.
Bride's Name: Elizabeth Baker.
Marriage Date: 28 Sep 1835.
Marriage Place: Saint Alban,Worcester,Worcester.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01379-1.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 0599888 IT 4, 354316.