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1871. Union St, Rowley Regis.
Joseph Billingham 64. Chain manufacturer.
Louisa Billingham 62.
Sarah Stover 17. Servant.

All born Kingswinford.

1881.
Louisa BILLINGHAM. Head. W. 79. Kingswinford, Stafford.
Susannah KANNAR. Sister In Law. W. 78. Dudley, Worcester.

Brettell Lane Amblecote.
Amblecote, Stafford.

If this Joseph Billingham is the one who was married to Kitty then I would expect Louisa to be mentioned in his will. Could someone check on Ancestry? He died 1876.

This is all there is,
Deaths Mar 1876.
Billingham Joseph 69. Dudley 6c. 14.


9 May 1876, The Will of Joseph Billingham the Elder, late of Cradley Heath in the County of Staffordshire. Chain manufaturer who died 2 March 1876 at Cradley Heath, was proved by Joseph Billingham of Cradley Heath, Chainmaker the son the sole Executor. Effects under £20.

Thanks Jimmy

Not adding any more on this too confusing for me!!

If either of you want to or tell me what we can connect safely
then I will add it.

not sure who that Susan that marries Kennar is as dob is out

this is what we have
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =455308033

does it look ok?

Jimmy wrote:1841. Kingswinford.
Benjamin Skidmore 35. Glass Cutter.
Luisa Skidmore 30.
Francis Beddard 70. Bricklayer.

All born in County.

I think this proves we have the right Louisa.

Jimmy wrote:Benjn. Skidmore.
Baptism/Christening Date: 29 Sep 1805.
Baptism/Christening Place: Brierley Hill, Stafford.
Father's Name: John Skidmore.
Mother's Name: Joanna Skidmore.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03015-4.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1470582.
Reference Number: item 2.

This Benjamin has a brother Joseph, but no sister Susannah.

Joseph Skidmore.
Baptism/Christening Date: 23 Jul 1809.
Baptism/Christening Place: Brierley Hill, Stafford.
Father's Name: John Skidmore.
Mother's Name: Joanna Skidmore.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03015-4.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1470582.
Reference Number: item 2.

What bothers me is that Joseph gives his birth as Woodside/Dudley, as does Susannah (her name and age vary a lot mind!). On the other hand Benjamin's place of birth is Kingswinford/Staffordshire.

1851 Joseph Skidmore age 40 Dudley
1861 Joseph Skidmore age 50 Dudley
1871 Joseph Skidmore 59 Woodside

1848 Susan Skidmore married age 31 father Thomas
1851 Susannah Kenna age 42 Dudley
1861 Susan Kinnas age 60 Dudley
1871 Susan Ann Skidmore 65 Woodside
1881 Susannah Kannar age 78 Dudley

1841 Benjamin Skidmore age 35 Staffordshire
1851 Benjamin Skidmore age 48 Kingswinford

1841 Luisa Skidmore age 30 Staffordshire
1851 Louisa Skidmore age 42 Kingswinford
1861 Louisa Westwood age 49 Staffordshire (can"™t read place)
1871 Louisa Billingham age 62 Kingswinford
1881 Louisa Billingham age 79 Kingswinford
1882 Louisa Billingham died aged 81

Lot of info here
I will add it but way over my head
so if you fathom it out you and jimmy and anyone!
I will add it if you tell me wot to add

gardener wrote:What bothers me is that Joseph gives his birth as Woodside/Dudley, as does Susannah (her name and age vary a lot mind!). On the other hand Benjamin's place of birth is Kingswinford/Staffordshire.

1851 Joseph Skidmore age 40 Dudley
1861 Joseph Skidmore age 50 Dudley
1871 Joseph Skidmore 59 Woodside

1848 Susan Skidmore married age 31 father Thomas
1851 Susannah Kenna age 42 Dudley
1861 Susan Kinnas age 60 Dudley
1871 Susan Ann Skidmore 65 Woodside
1881 Susannah Kannar age 78 Dudley

1841 Benjamin Skidmore age 35 Staffordshire
1851 Benjamin Skidmore age 48 Kingswinford

1841 Luisa Skidmore age 30 Staffordshire
1851 Louisa Skidmore age 42 Kingswinford
1861 Louisa Westwood age 49 Staffordshire (can"™t read place)
1871 Louisa Billingham age 62 Kingswinford
1881 Louisa Billingham age 79 Kingswinford
1882 Louisa Billingham died aged 81

It do's look as though Benjamin is the odd one out.

What do you think is safe to agree on Jimmy?

1841. Mount Pleasant, Kingswinford.
Thomas Skidmore 70. Miner,
Joseph Skidmore 30. Glass blower.
Susan Skidmore 35.
Ellen Skidmore 20. n.b.i.c.

That seems to be father Thomas with son Joseph (married too Ellen from Yorkshire) and daughter Susannah.

Take Susannah first

1841 Susan Skidmore age 35 Staffordshire
1848 Susan Skidmore married age 31 father Thomas
1851 Susannah Kenna age 42 Dudley
1861 Susan Kinnas age 60 Dudley
1871 Susan Ann Skidmore 65 Woodside
1881 Susannah Kannar age 78 Dudley

I think we can put her birth abt 1805. I think she lied when she married.

Saint Thomas, Dudley. 24 Dec. 1848.
Thomas Kennar. 29. Widower. Glassmaker. Dudley. Michael Kennar. Glassmaker.
Susan Skidmore. 31. Spinster. Dudley. Thomas Skidmore. Miner.

Died 1889
Susannah Kennar Kingswinford aged 89

Then there is Joseph Skidmore, same father (Thomas), we know that from the 1841 census

1841 Joseph Skidmore 30 Staffordshire
1851 Joseph Skidmore age 40 Dudley
1861 Joseph Skidmore age 50 Dudley
1871 Joseph Skidmore 59 Woodside

Joseph born abt 1811

Joseph married:
Joseph Skidmore and Ellen Oldroyd 25th Mar 1837 Dewsbury, Yorkshire (extracted, IGI)

Extracted:
ELENOR OLDROYD.
Birth: 06 MAY 1819.
Christening, 06 JUN 1819. High Chapel Townend-Wesleyan, Dewsbury, Yorkshire
Parents:
THOMAS OLDROYD.
OLIVIA.


Finally there is Benjamin

1841 Benjamin Skidmore age 35 Staffordshire
1851 Benjamin Skidmore age 48 Kingswinford

Benjamin married:
Benjamin Skidmore married Louisa Beddard 07 May 1826 St John Halesowen (transcript)

1841 : Wordsley, Staffs
Benjamin Skidmore, 35, Glass Cutter
Louisa Skidmore, 30
Francis Beddard, 70, Bricklayer
All Born in County

Probably died 1853

So
Benjamin was born abt 1803
Susannah was born abt 1805
Joseph was born abt 1811

Benjamin seems to have been born Kingswinford, then the family perhaps moved and Susannah and Joseph may have been born Dudly/Woodside

They are believed to be siblings because in 1881 Benjamin's widow Louisa (remarried and widowed) claims Susannah as her sister in law.

1881.
Louisa BILLINGHAM. Head. W. 79. Kingswinford, Stafford.
Susannah KANNAR. Sister In Law. W. 78. Dudley, Worcester.

I don't think we can put in any mother for them, or any baptisms.

That looks about right.

Just starting this off

so we cant add that bapt for Joseph or Susannah as a fact
maybe as a possible in notes?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =509585997

Northern Lass wrote:Just starting this off

so we cant add that bapt for Joseph or Susannah as a fact
maybe as a possible in notes?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =509585997

Joseph's birth in the census is pretty consistent at 1811ish so I find that baptism doubtful. I know that the Susannah one is tempting but I'm not convinced.

added here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =316901868