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Re: William's first marriage
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:58 pm
by kiwikid
peterd wrote:1861 Rising Sun (pub?) Oldbury
William Birch 27 Beerhouse keeper
Catherine Birch 20
John Birch 5
Sampson Birch 4
Frances Fane 24 visitor Appleby, Derbyshire
rest oldbury
Could Frances Fane be a transcription error as I have them as Horne??
Re: William's first marriage
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:22 pm
by Jimmy
kiwikid wrote:peterd wrote:1861 Rising Sun (pub?) Oldbury
William Birch 27 Beerhouse keeper
Catherine Birch 20
John Birch 5
Sampson Birch 4
Frances Fane 24 visitor Appleby, Derbyshire
rest oldbury
Could Frances
Fane be a transcription error as I have them as
Horne??
On the image it looks like
Horne.
Re: William's first marriage
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:27 pm
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:1881.
William BIRCH. Head. 54. Oldbury. Publican Employing 6 Men. age is out.
Hannah BIRCH. Wife. 40. Stourbridge.
Ellen BIRCH. Daur. 15. Oldbury.
Isaec BURTON. Stepson. 14. Oldbury.
Park St (Royal Oak)
Oldbury, Worcester,
1891. Royal Oak, 6 Park St, Oldbury.
William Birch 56. Farmer and Publican. Oldbury.
Hannah Birch 49. Stourbridge.
Is this the same William Birch, do you know when he died, and who is Ellen.
Re: William's first marriage
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:41 pm
by Jimmy
Horne on image.
1871. Bishops Castle, Shropshire.
John Home 56. Carpenter. Bishops Castle, Shropshire.
Maria Home 45. Ellesmere, Shropshire.
Edward Banbridge 13. Adopted Son. Birmingham, Warwickshire.
Ellen Birch 5. At Nurse, I think. Oldbury, Worcestershire.
Re: William's first marriage
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:52 pm
by kiwikid
Jimmy wrote:Horne on image.
1871. Bishops Castle, Shropshire.
John Home 56. Carpenter. Bishops Castle, Shropshire.
Maria Home 45. Ellesmere, Shropshire.
Edward Banbridge 13. Adopted Son. Birmingham, Warwickshire.
Ellen Birch 5. At Nurse, I think. Oldbury, Worcestershire.
Well spotted Jimmy. Thank you.
Re: William's first marriage
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:58 pm
by kiwikid
Jimmy wrote:Jimmy wrote:1881.
William BIRCH. Head. 54. Oldbury. Publican Employing 6 Men. age is out.
Hannah BIRCH. Wife. 40. Stourbridge.
Ellen BIRCH. Daur. 15. Oldbury.
Isaec BURTON. Stepson. 14. Oldbury.
Park St (Royal Oak)
Oldbury, Worcester,
1891. Royal Oak, 6 Park St, Oldbury.
William Birch 56. Farmer and Publican. Oldbury.
Hannah Birch 49. Stourbridge.
Is this the same William Birch, do you know when he died, and who is Ellen.
Jimmy, I am sure this is the same one. Can you see him on the 1891 or 1901 census as I cannot find him. Ellen must be Catherines child. She could have died in childbirth She ? died c 10.1866. I am wondering if he married a 4th time. Does the 1871 image show how long he was married to Eliza? Judith
Re: William's first marriage
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:57 am
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:
1891. Royal Oak, 6 Park St, Oldbury.
William Birch 56. Farmer and Publican. Oldbury.
Hannah Birch 49. Stourbridge.
This is the only one I can see in 1891, I havn't found him in 1901 yet, its only on 1911 census that states how long married.
Re: William's first marriage
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:25 pm
by kiwikid
Jimmy wrote:Jimmy wrote:
1891. Royal Oak, 6 Park St, Oldbury.
William Birch 56. Farmer and Publican. Oldbury.
Hannah Birch 49. Stourbridge.
This is the only one I can see in 1891, I havn't found him in 1901 yet, its only on 1911 census that states how long married.
Jimmy, Hope this works. Thanks for the info on the 1911 census. I thought previous censuses gave this info as well. J
Re: William's first marriage
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:32 pm
by Jimmy
Bird could be Birch on image.
1901. 8, Junction St, Oldbury.
Hannah Bird 60. Widow. Langley.
William Carnock 45. Son in law. Brewery Labouer. Gloucestershire.
Emily Carnock 40. Dau. Mar. Langley, Worcestershire.
Re: William's first marriage
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:37 pm
by Antie Em
Jimmy wrote:Bird could be Birch on image.
1901. 8, Junction St, Oldbury.
Hannah Bird 60. Widow. Langley.
William Carnock 45. Son in law. Brewery Labouer. Gloucestershire.
Emily Carnock 40. Dau. Mar. Langley, Worcestershire.
Think this migh be the marriage for Emily here :
1895 : CORNOCK William BIRD Emeler Oldbury, St Michael & All Angels (Langley) Sandwell Register Office 13/1/127
Re: William's first marriage
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:39 pm
by Jimmy
Yes I just found that.
Re: William's first marriage
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:42 pm
by kiwikid
Jimmy wrote:Yes I just found that.
What a great site this is; people are so helpful and chatty too. Thank you all. Judith
Re: William's first marriage
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:52 pm
by Jimmy
Clearly Birch on image.
1901, 60 High St, Oldbury.
Will Berch 66. Retired Stable Cab Proprietor. Oldbury, Worcestershire.
Hannah Berch 50. West Bromwich.
Re: William's first marriage
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:15 pm
by Jimmy
Could someone check this out please, to see if it says when married.
1911 Oldbury, basics.
BIRCH WILLIAM. 1835. 76.
BIRCH HANNER. 1844. 67.
Re: William's first marriage
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:22 pm
by Jimmy
Deaths Jun 1915.
Birch William. 81. W. Bromwich. 6b. 979.
Deaths Mar 1918.
Birch Hannah. 77. W Bromwich. 6b. 971.