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by kiwikid » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:58 pm
peterd wrote: 1861 Rising Sun (pub?) Oldbury William Birch 27 Beerhouse keeper Catherine Birch 20 John Birch 5 Sampson Birch 4 Frances Fane 24 visitor Appleby, Derbyshire rest oldbury
Could Frances Fane be a transcription error as I have them as Horne??
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by Jimmy » Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:22 pm
kiwikid wrote: peterd wrote: 1861 Rising Sun (pub?) Oldbury William Birch 27 Beerhouse keeper Catherine Birch 20 John Birch 5 Sampson Birch 4 Frances Fane 24 visitor Appleby, Derbyshire rest oldbury
Could Frances
Fane be a transcription error as I have them as
Horne ??
On the image it looks like
Horne.
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by Jimmy » Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:27 pm
Jimmy wrote: 1881. William BIRCH. Head. 54. Oldbury. Publican Employing 6 Men. age is out . Hannah BIRCH. Wife. 40. Stourbridge. Ellen BIRCH. Daur . 15. Oldbury. Isaec BURTON. Stepson. 14. Oldbury. Park St (Royal Oak) Oldbury, Worcester, 1891. Royal Oak, 6 Park St, Oldbury. William Birch 56. Farmer and Publican. Oldbury. Hannah Birch 49. Stourbridge.
Is this the same William Birch, do you know when he died, and who is Ellen.
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by Jimmy » Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:41 pm
Horne on image. 1871. Bishops Castle, Shropshire. John Home 56. Carpenter. Bishops Castle, Shropshire. Maria Home 45. Ellesmere, Shropshire. Edward Banbridge 13. Adopted Son. Birmingham, Warwickshire.Ellen Birch 5. At Nurse , I think. Oldbury, Worcestershire.
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by kiwikid » Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:52 pm
Jimmy wrote: Horne on image. 1871. Bishops Castle, Shropshire. John Home 56. Carpenter. Bishops Castle, Shropshire. Maria Home 45. Ellesmere, Shropshire. Edward Banbridge 13. Adopted Son. Birmingham, Warwickshire.Ellen Birch 5. At Nurse , I think. Oldbury, Worcestershire.
Well spotted Jimmy. Thank you.
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by kiwikid » Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:58 pm
Jimmy wrote: Jimmy wrote: 1881. William BIRCH. Head. 54. Oldbury. Publican Employing 6 Men. age is out . Hannah BIRCH. Wife. 40. Stourbridge. Ellen BIRCH. Daur . 15. Oldbury. Isaec BURTON. Stepson. 14. Oldbury. Park St (Royal Oak) Oldbury, Worcester, 1891. Royal Oak, 6 Park St, Oldbury. William Birch 56. Farmer and Publican. Oldbury. Hannah Birch 49. Stourbridge.
Is this the same William Birch, do you know when he died, and who is Ellen.
Jimmy, I am sure this is the same one. Can you see him on the 1891 or 1901 census as I cannot find him. Ellen must be Catherines child. She could have died in childbirth She ? died c 10.1866. I am wondering if he married a 4th time. Does the 1871 image show how long he was married to Eliza? Judith
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by Jimmy » Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:57 am
Jimmy wrote: 1891. Royal Oak, 6 Park St, Oldbury. William Birch 56. Farmer and Publican. Oldbury. Hannah Birch 49. Stourbridge.
This is the only one I can see in 1891, I havn't found him in 1901 yet, its only on 1911 census that states how long married.
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by kiwikid » Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:25 pm
Jimmy wrote: Jimmy wrote: 1891. Royal Oak, 6 Park St, Oldbury. William Birch 56. Farmer and Publican. Oldbury. Hannah Birch 49. Stourbridge.
This is the only one I can see in 1891, I havn't found him in 1901 yet, its only on 1911 census that states how long married.
Jimmy, Hope this works. Thanks for the info on the 1911 census. I thought previous censuses gave this info as well. J
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by Jimmy » Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:32 pm
Bird could be Birch on image. 1901. 8, Junction St, Oldbury. Hannah Bird 60. Widow. Langley. William Carnock 45. Son in law. Brewery Labouer. Gloucestershire. Emily Carnock 40. Dau. Mar. Langley, Worcestershire.
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by Antie Em » Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:37 pm
Jimmy wrote: Bird could be Birch on image. 1901. 8, Junction St, Oldbury. Hannah Bird 60. Widow. Langley. William Carnock 45. Son in law. Brewery Labouer. Gloucestershire. Emily Carnock 40. Dau. Mar. Langley, Worcestershire.
Think this migh be the marriage for Emily here :
1895 : CORNOCK William BIRD Emeler Oldbury, St Michael & All Angels (Langley) Sandwell Register Office 13/1/127
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by Jimmy » Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:39 pm
Yes I just found that.
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by kiwikid » Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:42 pm
Jimmy wrote: Yes I just found that.
What a great site this is; people are so helpful and chatty too. Thank you all. Judith
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by Jimmy » Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:52 pm
Clearly Birch on image. 1901, 60 High St, Oldbury. Will Berch 66. Retired Stable Cab Proprietor. Oldbury, Worcestershire. Hannah Berch 50. West Bromwich.
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by Jimmy » Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:15 pm
Could someone check this out please, to see if it says when married. 1911 Oldbury, basics. BIRCH WILLIAM. 1835. 76. BIRCH HANNER. 1844. 67.
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by Jimmy » Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:22 pm
Deaths Jun 1915. Birch William. 81. W. Bromwich. 6b. 979. Deaths Mar 1918. Birch Hannah. 77. W Bromwich. 6b. 971.