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Re: William's first marriage

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peterd wrote:1861 Rising Sun (pub?) Oldbury

William Birch 27 Beerhouse keeper
Catherine Birch 20
John Birch 5
Sampson Birch 4
Frances Fane 24 visitor Appleby, Derbyshire
rest oldbury

Could Frances Fane be a transcription error as I have them as Horne??
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kiwikid wrote:
peterd wrote:1861 Rising Sun (pub?) Oldbury

William Birch 27 Beerhouse keeper
Catherine Birch 20
John Birch 5
Sampson Birch 4
Frances Fane 24 visitor Appleby, Derbyshire
rest oldbury

Could Frances Fane be a transcription error as I have them as Horne??


On the image it looks like Horne.
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Jimmy wrote:1881.
William BIRCH. Head. 54. Oldbury. Publican Employing 6 Men. age is out.
Hannah BIRCH. Wife. 40. Stourbridge.
Ellen BIRCH. Daur. 15. Oldbury.
Isaec BURTON. Stepson. 14. Oldbury.

Park St (Royal Oak)
Oldbury, Worcester,

1891. Royal Oak, 6 Park St, Oldbury.
William Birch 56. Farmer and Publican. Oldbury.
Hannah Birch 49. Stourbridge.


Is this the same William Birch, do you know when he died, and who is Ellen.
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Horne on image.

1871. Bishops Castle, Shropshire.
John Home 56. Carpenter. Bishops Castle, Shropshire.
Maria Home 45. Ellesmere, Shropshire.
Edward Banbridge 13. Adopted Son. Birmingham, Warwickshire.
Ellen Birch 5. At Nurse, I think. Oldbury, Worcestershire.
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Jimmy wrote:Horne on image.

1871. Bishops Castle, Shropshire.
John Home 56. Carpenter. Bishops Castle, Shropshire.
Maria Home 45. Ellesmere, Shropshire.
Edward Banbridge 13. Adopted Son. Birmingham, Warwickshire.
Ellen Birch 5. At Nurse, I think. Oldbury, Worcestershire.


Well spotted Jimmy. Thank you.
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Jimmy wrote:
Jimmy wrote:1881.
William BIRCH. Head. 54. Oldbury. Publican Employing 6 Men. age is out.
Hannah BIRCH. Wife. 40. Stourbridge.
Ellen BIRCH. Daur. 15. Oldbury.
Isaec BURTON. Stepson. 14. Oldbury.

Park St (Royal Oak)
Oldbury, Worcester,

1891. Royal Oak, 6 Park St, Oldbury.
William Birch 56. Farmer and Publican. Oldbury.
Hannah Birch 49. Stourbridge.


Is this the same William Birch, do you know when he died, and who is Ellen.


Jimmy, I am sure this is the same one. Can you see him on the 1891 or 1901 census as I cannot find him. Ellen must be Catherines child. She could have died in childbirth She ? died c 10.1866. I am wondering if he married a 4th time. Does the 1871 image show how long he was married to Eliza? Judith
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Jimmy wrote:

1891. Royal Oak, 6 Park St, Oldbury.
William Birch 56. Farmer and Publican. Oldbury.
Hannah Birch 49. Stourbridge.


This is the only one I can see in 1891, I havn't found him in 1901 yet, its only on 1911 census that states how long married.
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Jimmy wrote:
Jimmy wrote:

1891. Royal Oak, 6 Park St, Oldbury.
William Birch 56. Farmer and Publican. Oldbury.
Hannah Birch 49. Stourbridge.


This is the only one I can see in 1891, I havn't found him in 1901 yet, its only on 1911 census that states how long married.

Jimmy, Hope this works. Thanks for the info on the 1911 census. I thought previous censuses gave this info as well. J
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Bird could be Birch on image.
1901. 8, Junction St, Oldbury.
Hannah Bird 60. Widow. Langley.
William Carnock 45. Son in law. Brewery Labouer. Gloucestershire.
Emily Carnock 40. Dau. Mar. Langley, Worcestershire.
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Jimmy wrote:Bird could be Birch on image.
1901. 8, Junction St, Oldbury.
Hannah Bird 60. Widow. Langley.
William Carnock 45. Son in law. Brewery Labouer. Gloucestershire.
Emily Carnock 40. Dau. Mar. Langley, Worcestershire.


Think this migh be the marriage for Emily here :

1895 : CORNOCK William BIRD Emeler Oldbury, St Michael & All Angels (Langley) Sandwell Register Office 13/1/127
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Yes I just found that.
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Jimmy wrote:Yes I just found that.

What a great site this is; people are so helpful and chatty too. Thank you all. Judith
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Clearly Birch on image.
1901, 60 High St, Oldbury.
Will Berch 66. Retired Stable Cab Proprietor. Oldbury, Worcestershire.
Hannah Berch 50. West Bromwich.
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Could someone check this out please, to see if it says when married.
1911 Oldbury, basics.
BIRCH WILLIAM. 1835. 76.
BIRCH HANNER. 1844. 67.
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Deaths Jun 1915.
Birch William. 81. W. Bromwich. 6b. 979.

Deaths Mar 1918.
Birch Hannah. 77. W Bromwich. 6b. 971.
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