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Re: Batchelor....still got a query on this one

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:37 pm
by WP&JP
Hi The information I have for Richards Birth is from the Birt cert that i have from Dudley Reg District Services

Reads Certified copy of an 1897 Birth sub district Kingswinford Stafford
14th March 1897 Richard father Jonh Batchelor forge Lab Mother Ann Maria Elizabeth Batchelo Formaly Steadman. Potter Street Brierley Hill
Just realised it's his birthday today

Yours WP

Re: Batchelor....still got a query on this one

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:55 pm
by Northern Lass
WP&JP wrote:Hi The information I have for Richards Birth is from the Birt cert that i have from Dudley Reg District Services

Reads Certified copy of an 1897 Birth sub district Kingswinford Stafford
14th March 1897 Richard father Jonh Batchelor forge Lab Mother Ann Maria Elizabeth Batchelo Formaly Steadman. Potter Street Brierley Hill
Just realised it's his birthday today

Yours WP


Yes we think that maybe that is the Ann Maria E we have found on census

maybe Ann or Elizabeth whatever her name was she called herself, maybe JOhn Batchelor and her didn't marry
maybe already married to other people?

When I go to archives I will look up those marriages
see if for that John father is John

Re: Batchelor....still got a query on this one

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:47 am
by Northern Lass
Not sure we can do more on this until we get the marriage info

so going to flag to archive pending more info

Re: Arc pending more info* ---Batchelor.... query on this on

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:56 am
by rockyfowler
1 Jun 1874 St Andrew Dudley
Thomas COLLINS M B Brick Worker Kingswinford Father John Collins Nailer
Mary Elizabeth BATCHELOR M S Kingswinford Father John Batchelor Stock Taker
Wit; John Thomas Wall Mary Ann Wall

20 Jun 1875 St andrew Dudley
John BATCHELOR F B Stock Taker Netherton Father (Dec)---
Hannah CHANCE M S Netherton Father John Chance Miner
Witt; David Mackay Eliza Danks

Re: Arc pending more info* ---Batchelor.... query on this on

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:02 am
by Northern Lass
rockyfowler wrote:1 Jun 1874 St Andrew Dudley
Thomas COLLINS M B Brick Worker Kingswinford Father John Collins Nailer
Mary Elizabeth BATCHELOR M S Kingswinford Father John Batchelor Stock Taker
Wit; John Thomas Wall Mary Ann Wall

20 Jun 1875 St andrew Dudley
John BATCHELOR F B Stock Taker Netherton Father (Dec)---
Hannah CHANCE M S Netherton Father John Chance Miner
Witt; David Mackay Eliza Danks


aghhhhhhhhhhhhh

that guy at St Andrews why cant he put fathers name on

thanks for this RF :grin:

Re: Arc pending more info* ---Batchelor.... query on this on

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:03 am
by Northern Lass
Its him though

stocktaker

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =974047987

I will add that marriage

so that falls in nicely

Re: Batchelor.... query on this one------Nl to add to Bcc

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:10 am
by Northern Lass
Was there a marriage for John Batchelor snr and martha
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =490507229

Re: Batchelor.... query on this one------Nl to add to Bcc

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:18 am
by Northern Lass
Where are John Batchelor and Martha in 1881 pls

anyone find them
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =411962036

1861 : Amblecote Road, Kingswinford Staffordshire
John Batchelor, Head, 36, Forgeman & Iron Works, Born Old Swinford Worcestershire
Martha Batchelor, Wife, 35
Martha Batchelor, Daughter, 12, Scholar
John Batchelor, Son, 9, Scholar
Mary Batchelor, Daughter, 7
Helen Batchelor, Daughter, 2
All Others Born in Kingswinford

1871 : Amblecote Road, Kingswinford Staffordshire
John Batchelor, Head, 46, Stocktaker, Unemployed, Born Lycington, Worcs
Martha Batchelor, Wife, 47
John Batchelor, Son, 19, Ironworker, Unemployed
Ellen Batchelor, Daughter, 13, Scholar
Annie Batchelor, Daughter, 9, Scholar
Richard Batchelor, Son, 6, Scholar
All Others Born in Kingswinford


want to ensure that Martha still alive and it isnt his father that marries Hannah!

Re: Batchelor.... query on this one------Nl to add to Bcc

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:20 am
by Antie Em
Northern Lass wrote:Was there a marriage for John Batchelor snr and martha
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =490507229


1848 : BACHELOR John BACHE Martha Sedgley, All Saints Dudley Register Office 216/005/232

Re: Batchelor.... query on this one------Nl to add to Bcc

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:25 am
by Northern Lass
Antie Em wrote:
Northern Lass wrote:Was there a marriage for John Batchelor snr and martha
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =490507229


1848 : BACHELOR John BACHE Martha Sedgley, All Saints Dudley Register Office 216/005/232


is this her?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =655780616

Re: Batchelor....still got a query on this one

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:28 am
by Northern Lass
Northern Lass wrote:Not sure we can do more on this until we get the marriage info

so going to flag to archive pending more info


moved this to brickwalls need the marriage for ann steadman
will post when done

Re: Batchelor.... query on this one

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:39 am
by Antie Em
1891 : Fields, Amblecote, Staffs
James Tilley, Head, 43, Steel Fork Maker, Born in Darby End
Maria Tilley, Wife, 38<br>
Sarah Tilley, Daur, 14
Ida M Tilley, Daur, 13, Born in Kinver
John W Tilley, Son, 11
Annie Tilley, Daur, 8
James H Tilley, Son, 4
Wilfred Tilly, Son, 2
Dora Tilley, Daur, 3 Months
Hannah Batchelor, Sister in Law, 38, Married
All Others Born in Amblecote

James Tilley and Ann M (Maria?) Chance marry in 1873

1873 : TILLEY James CHANCE Ann M Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/030/314

Re: Batchelor.... query on this one

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:40 pm
by Northern Lass
Have opened a thread on John in BC genealogy

but it is looking good have connected up
Johns first wife
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=76850503

on 1861 John Chance and family next door to Allports
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =680920867

so Ann Maria Elizabeth G.dau of Cornelius Allport

I dont think we are going to find a marriage for JOhn Batchelor and Ann Maria Steadman

G.dau (Ann Maria Elizabeth Steadman) of neighbour (Corneilus Allport) in 1861 marries/lives with neighbours (John Chance) dau's (hannah chance) husband (John Batchelor)
wife still alive....................this is what it looks like to me

looks like for some reason Hannah and John split and went separate ways

:shock:

Re: Batchelor.... query on this one

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:47 pm
by WP&JP
Fantastic information you have all kindly foud for me
got to take my time now adding to my family tree

WP

Re: Batchelor.... query on this one

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:09 pm
by Northern Lass
WP&JP wrote:Fantastic information you have all kindly foud for me
got to take my time now adding to my family tree

WP


Double check it WP cos although I think it looks the business
mistakes do happen
I will update BCC with the marriage for Ann Steadman when I do it :wink: