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I am still searching for information regarding Thomas Henry Knight, the nephew. Who in 1901 census was living with his uncle, Thomas Henry Knight and aunt Annie and two cousins Arthur Thomas and Frank Leslie Knight at 114 Enville Street, Stourbridge. I had found a burial record for Thomas Henry Knight (uncle) who died in 1911, and also buried in the same plot was a Caroline Knight died 1900 age 62 and an Eliza Talbot died 1920 age 72. I believe Caroline may have been Thomas Henry's mother (yet to be proved) and Eliza Talbot, was his mother in law, previously a Terry.

In the 1911 census for 114 Enville Street, Stourbridge

Mrs Louisa Knight Head 41 Mistress of Baking Department
Arthur Thomas Knight Eldest Son 17 Grammer School Scholar
Frank Leslie Knight Youngest Son 13 Deliver for mother
Mrs Eliza Talbot Mother Widow 64 Cook Domestic

Thomas Henry Knight was buried on 5 January 1911 age 46, I did visit the Stourbridge Cemetery today, with details of were the grave is and with the help of staff their managed to locate the plot. Unfortunately there is no longer a head stone, and therefore unable to confirm if Caroline Knight was his mother.

Northern Lass wrote:Not sure where we are with this one?
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more help needed

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Thomas Henry Knight was buried on 5 January 1911 age 46, I did visit the Stourbridge Cemetery today, with details of were the grave is and with the help of staff their managed to locate the plot. Unfortunately there is no longer a head stone, and therefore unable to confirm if Caroline Knight was his mother.

think they can tell you who was buired in the same plot as thomas that might help ?

You might have to get some birth certifs

Births Dec 1897
Knight Thomas Henry Dudley 6c 112

and have a look at that marriage

Marriages Dec 1892
Knight Thomas Henry Aston 6d 662
Mee Laura Alice Aston 6d 662
Palmer Alice Aston 6d 662
SMITH William Aston 6d 662
Terry Louisa Aston 6d 662

if that is him with Grandparents

that Parkes and Knight one is worth looking at
1896
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
KNIGHT William PARKES Kate M Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/041/184

see how William Knight links to Thomas Henry Knight snr

Am just sorting out what birth certificates and marriage certificates to send for, I know that the Dec 1892 Marriage for:

Knight Thomas Henry Aston 6d 662
Terry Louisa Aston 6d 662

is correct as I have Arthur Thomas Knight's birth certificate and these are his parents.

I had ruled out the match with Parkes and Knight, as I had found a 1901 census record for them, which did not have a Thomas Henry as a son, but wasn't sure if he could appear in more than one census record for that year, as have found a record for a Thomas Henry aged 3 living with Grandparents, the Parkes and also living as nephew with Knights also aged 3.

I am sending for a number of certicates to try and find an answer to this, including a birth certificate for Thomas Henry Knight (Snr) in Lewes, Sussex, as the 1901 Census states he was born in Newhaven, Lewes, Sussex. This will hopefully identify his parents and enable me to discover whether he had any siblings who could be the parents of Thomas Henry.

Northern Lass wrote:You might have to get some birth certifs

Births Dec 1897
Knight Thomas Henry Dudley 6c 112

and have a look at that marriage

Marriages Dec 1892
Knight Thomas Henry Aston 6d 662
Mee Laura Alice Aston 6d 662
Palmer Alice Aston 6d 662
SMITH William Aston 6d 662
Terry Louisa Aston 6d 662

if that is him with Grandparents

that Parkes and Knight one is worth looking at
1896
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
KNIGHT William PARKES Kate M Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/041/184

see how William Knight links to Thomas Henry Knight snr

dont forget you can look that Parkes one up at archives for free!

At what Archives? and will that tell me their parents names?

Northern Lass wrote:dont forget you can look that Parkes one up at archives for free!

Kerry Hunt wrote:At what Archives? and will that tell me their parents names?

Northern Lass wrote:dont forget you can look that Parkes one up at archives for free!

Yes Dudley archives and it will give you the father
ages occup wits
it is exactly the same as getting the marriage certif
it is the original marriage certif
on films out of the parish regis

if you cant go I will do it for you

gonna be about a week though

1896
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
KNIGHT William PARKES Kate M Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/041/184


that last number is the actual entry in the PRegister

Thank you that would be great if you don't mind.

Northern Lass wrote:

Kerry Hunt wrote:At what Archives? and will that tell me their parents names?

Northern Lass wrote:dont forget you can look that Parkes one up at archives for free!

Yes Dudley archives and it will give you the father
ages occup wits
it is exactly the same as getting the marriage certif
it is the original marriage certif
on films out of the parish regis

if you cant go I will do it for you

gonna be about a week though

Ok I will add that

not sure we can do any more on this until we have more info from certifs

so going to move this to archived pending info
it will be brought back with look ups or your certif info
just pm a mod to get it brought back

Just thinking...

If that is the father of our Thomas Henry Knight b abt 1897
then brother to Thomas Henry Knight could be a William Knight
mother Caroling

have we got these on earlier census

or a marriage for a Knight and Caroling

or did we do that....

I have been looking at census information for a Thomas Henry and William Knight as brothers, but so far have not found anything. I have found a marriage record for the following:

KNIGHT Henry Frederick GLADMAN Caroline Dec 1861 Lewes 2b 286

And I know from the 1901 census information Thomas Henry Knights place of birth is recorded as Newhaven, Sussex which I know is in the registration district Lewes.

But I have not found census information for this couple yet, am looking both in Stourbridge area and Sussex.

Very time consuming as so many Knights

Northern Lass wrote:Just thinking...

If that is the father of our Thomas Henry Knight b abt 1897
then brother to Thomas Henry Knight could be a William Knight
mother Caroling

have we got these on earlier census

or a marriage for a Knight and Caroling

or did we do that....

So that look up will be very interesting if father is a Henry Frederick Knight!
will add a note

kdw wrote:1901 Terrace Street Rowley Regis
William Knight Head 27 Blacksmith Striker in Tube Works
Kate Maria Knight Wife 24
Nellie Blanche Knight Daur. 4
Albert Knight Son 3
Fredk Knight Son 1
Horace Knight Son 2 mont
All Born Rowley Regis

started to add this to BCC as it will be easier to follow it on there

I think that is the correct marriage you have Kerry for Henry Frederick Knight and Caroline Gladman in Lewes

Thomas Henry Knight is born in lewes in 1864
added to bcc

and look at that census above
I think that is your brother of Thomas Henry Knight
with Kate Hackett (marriage I am looking up)
and they call son Frederick

Have we the 1911 with this family on
Lousia as head

Franks age is out on census if this is him
can we confirm when born?

1897
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
KNIGHT Frank L Stourbridge Dudley Register Office STO/108/446