*Arc tbc* -Shelah Garrett -

[peterd]

1881 census

1881 Rownds Fold Dudley, Worcester


William GARRATT 64 Netherton, Worcester, Unable To Work
Thirzah GARRATT 50 Netherton, Worcester, Nail Maker
Henry GARRATT 12 Netherton, Worcester, At Home



next door

1881 Rownds Fold Place Dudley, Worcester


Samuel GARRATT 28 Oldhill, Stafford, Horse Nail Maker
Mary GARRATT 34 Netherton, Worcester, Nail Maker
Mary H. GARRATT 14 Netherton, Worcester, Nail Maker
Phoebe GARRATT 9 Netherton, Worcester, Scholar


on bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =638096746

who this as its not samuel garratt and mary davies ?

[cid]

Hi Peterd

It's Samuel Garratt ( actual age 38 not 28 as on census) and
Maria Summers

cid

[peterd]

Hi Peterd

It's Samuel Garratt ( actual age 38 not 28 as on census) and
Maria Summers

cid

1871
3 Rounds Fold, Dudley
Samuel Garrett 28 - Nailor - b Rowley
Maria Garrett 25 - Nailor - b Oldbury
Sarah Ann Garrett 6
Mary Ann Garrett 3
Florence Garrett 1
others b Netherton

this is the census for 1871 if it was maria and samuel were the kids ? sarah could be with her gran i think so florence dies ?

[cid]

Think you're right Sarah Ann with grandparents.
No sign of Florence. I can find her birth record Dec 1/4 1869 but no record of her death. Wonder if she was with other grandparents?

[cid]

1881 census

SUMMERS, Ann Head Widow F 70 1811 No Trade Rock
SMITH, Joseph Lodger Single M 32 1849 Clay Getter Netherton
HAMPTON, Nailey Lodger Widower M 50 1831 Glead Burner (Coke) Netherton
HAMPTON, Eliza Lodger Single F 9 1872 Scholar Netherton
GARRATT, John Grand Son Single M 18 1863 Blast Furnace Man (I) Netherton
GARRATT, Sarahan Grand Daughter Single F 16 1865 Nail Maker Netherton

this is Sarah Ann, no sign of Florence living with Hannah Garratt either.

Who is this John above, is he also Samuel Garratt and Maria Summers son? Is so where is he in 1871? Or did Summers have another daughter who also married a Garratt?? All very confusing.

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[Northern Lass]

Hi Pete and Cid
just wondered what else you need on this?
can any be added to BCC?

flagging it...

Unless otherwise advised this will be moved to archived section within 24 hrs

[peterd]

put a look up on for these


1881 Rownds Fold Dudley, Worcester


William GARRATT 64 Netherton, Worcester, Unable To Work
Thirzah GARRATT 50 Netherton, Worcester, Nail Maker
Henry GARRATT 12 Netherton, Worcester, At Home

marriage

1849 CHANCE Frizah(should be thurza) GARRAT William Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/001/153

on bcc but who his father ?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =620022053

[Northern Lass]

ok look up added

will archive pending look up

[Northern Lass]

put a look up on for these


1881 Rownds Fold Dudley, Worcester


William GARRATT 64 Netherton, Worcester, Unable To Work
Thirzah GARRATT 50 Netherton, Worcester, Nail Maker
Henry GARRATT 12 Netherton, Worcester, At Home

marriage

1849 CHANCE Frizah(should be thurza) GARRAT William Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/001/153

on bcc but who his father ?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =620022053

Ok look up has been kindly done by Kdw

father for William Farrattt is a John Garratt
thurza checks out with father James

So do we have this John in this thread as cant see him on BCC

but can we find this John Garratt......no occup notes will check with Kdw on that unless she is reading this....

marriage 1849
so is William on census 1841 with John

here is link....William is a widower on cert
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =830625283

[peterd]

so we need a 1841 census

william garratt c 1817

father john


might be near william on 1851 census with Thirzah if we can find them

[dianel]

Another clue ... William has a sister, Mary Ann b. abt 1810 who marries a LORE.

1891 Census - Living at Rounds Fold, Netherton
William Garratt,73, on own means, with wife, Tirzah, 58, son, Henry, 28 and widowed sister, Mary Ann LORE, 81

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wonder if this is her

MARY ANN GARRATT
Birth: 10 JUL 1808
Christening: 17 JUL 1829 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

Father: JOHN GARRATT
Mother: MARY


william c 1817

[FarSide]

1881 census

SUMMERS, Ann Head Widow F 70 1811 No Trade Rock
SMITH, Joseph Lodger Single M 32 1849 Clay Getter Netherton
HAMPTON, Nailey Lodger Widower M 50 1831 Glead Burner (Coke) Netherton
HAMPTON, Eliza Lodger Single F 9 1872 Scholar Netherton
GARRATT, John Grand Son Single M 18 1863 Blast Furnace Man (I) Netherton
GARRATT, Sarahan Grand Daughter Single F 16 1865 Nail Maker Netherton

this is Sarah Ann, no sign of Florence living with Hannah Garratt either.

Who is this John above, is he also Samuel Garratt and Maria Summers son? Is so where is he in 1871? Or did Summers have another daughter who also married a Garratt?? All very confusing.

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Not up with this post, poss
1841
Netherton Hill, Dudley
William Garratt 20 - Nailor - b in c

2 doors away
Benjamin Hampton 50 - Nailor
Theodosen Hampton 40
Benjamin HamptonJr. 15 - Nailor
Lemmia Hampton 20
Moses Hampton 15
Arthur Hampton 12
Eliza Hampton 9
Elizh Hampton 10 Mo
all b in c

[peterd]

i think on this post know we need to find william c 1817 with his first wife as he was widow on 2nd marriage

14 May 1849 St John Kates Hill
William Garratt- X full age- Widower - nailer- Dudley- father John Garratt
Thirza Chance - X full age- spinster- Dudley- Father James Chance Collier
Wit- James ??? can`t read



so where he in 1851 with thirza ?


where is he in 1841 with first wife ?

or

with parents John & ? (poss mary)

sister mary ann 1808 ? she with him in 1891 mary ann lore census age 81 (this could be out)

[peterd]

poss first marriages ?

WILLIAM JOHN GARRETT
MARY HINGELEY
Marriage: 26 DEC 1831 Tipton, Stafford,

this belongs to this ruled out

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =640185101



WILLIAM GARRET
ANN SALTER
Marriage: 21 FEB 1842 Fladbury, Worcester,


anyone find anymore ?