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FarSide wrote:Poss sister

25 Dec 1869 Holy Trinity West Bromwich
George SMALLWOOD 22 B Labourer West Bromwich Father Josiah Smallwood Labourer
Ann FIRKIN 22 S West Bromwich Father Jeremiah Firkin Boatman
After Banns The X of Both
Wit; Richard Berry X / Mary Berry X

Witness's marry
1849
BERRY Richard FIRKIN Mary West Bromwich, All Saints Sandwell Register Office 22/5/7

Richard is a boat steerer on the 71

Thanks Farside for this information

We still haven't got Ann Firkin in 1851.
I think we can discount the fact that Ann Roberts is Ann Firkin born 1847 Penkridge,Staffs.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... rts-Family
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... rts-Family

Although there are still the Lodge Street,Stone Street,Oldbury connections.A stones throw from Tat Bank Canal Basin.

Rob wrote:We still haven't got Ann Firkin in 1851.
I think we can discount the fact that Ann Roberts is Ann Firkin born 1847 Penkridge,Staffs.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... rts-Family
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... rts-Family

Although there are still the Lodge Street,Stone Street,Oldbury connections.A stones throw from Tat Bank Canal Basin.

Yes we definitely can. Well we know who her parents were

We know that her parents were Jeremiah Firkin 1804 - 1855 and , Sarah Wagstaff 1804 We have their marriage from family search

We know that her grandparents possibly are William Firkin 1765 and Martha Whitehouse 1766-1847

Now we have to prove it

We have proved the parents , because we have their marriage ,the Baptism, and from Anns marriage we know Mary was her sister as she was the witness on marriage .

I will see if I can find 41 census. We will not find Ann in 41 census she was not born . So i have to look for 51 .

She gets married in 1869 to George Smallwood but where is she in 1851 and 1861?
Back to the original question.

cannot find find Ann on 51 census .

dudleytaylor wrote:We know that her parents were Jeremiah Firkin 1804 - 1855 and , Sarah Wagstaff 1804 We have their marriage from family search

We know that her grandparents possibly are William Firkin 1765 and Martha Whitehouse 1766-1847

Now we have to prove it

We have proved the parents , because we have their marriage ,the Baptism, and from Anns marriage we know Mary was her sister as she was the witness on marriage .

Adding some of this to Bcc now Rob

Where did you get the Gailey ref is she on later cenus and puts her place of birth?

Odm ref on IGI
Name: Jeremiah Firkin
Spouse's Name: Sarah Wagstaff
Event Date: 03 Jul 1826
Event Place: Saint Phillips,Birmingham,Warwick,England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M04179-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 0813726-728, 0814245, 0813712, 813725

dudleytaylor wrote:Name: Mary Ferkims
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 09 Nov 1829
Christening Place: St Phillip's, Birmingham, Warwick, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Jeremiah Ferkims
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Sarah
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03112-6
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 502187
Reference ID:

also on IGI
Name: Mary Ferkins
Christening Date: 09 Nov 1829
Christening Place: SAINT PHILLIPS,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 22 Oct 1829
Father's Name: Jeremiah Ferkins
Mother's Name: Sarah
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04179-7
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 813720, 813721

possible marriage
Name: William Firkin
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Martha Whitehouse
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 15 Apr 1793
Event Place: All Saints,West Bromwich,Stafford,England
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01024-2
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 421617
Reference ID:

It would be good to get that marriage for Jeremiah and Sarah see who the wits are

looks like his parents could well be a Wm Firkin and Martha

and that the marriage could be a Wm Firkin and Martha whitehouse

I have added in as possible in Jeremiahs notes

FIRKINS Jeremiah Oldbury Sandwell Register Office OLD/11/410

Northern Lass wrote:It would be good to get that marriage for Jeremiah and Sarah see who the wits are

looks like his parents could well be a Wm Firkin and Martha

and that the marriage could be a Wm Firkin and Martha whitehouse

I have added in as possible in Jeremiahs notes

Where would you have to go for marriages in Birmingham?

dudleytaylor wrote:FIRKINS Jeremiah Oldbury Sandwell Register Office OLD/11/410

What's this DT a marriage?

Sorry , I was in a hurry , Its Jeremiahs Death , Ann Firkin's Dad . 1855

Rob wrote:

Northern Lass wrote:It would be good to get that marriage for Jeremiah and Sarah see who the wits are

looks like his parents could well be a Wm Firkin and Martha

and that the marriage could be a Wm Firkin and Martha whitehouse

I have added in as possible in Jeremiahs notes

Where would you have to go for marriages in Birmingham?

dudleytaylor wrote:FIRKINS Jeremiah Oldbury Sandwell Register Office OLD/11/410

What's this DT a marriage?

Birmingham Marriages are at the New Library in Birmingham , closed till 3 September 2013