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Benjamin checks out and we have him on so I think that is his second marriage will connect up
28 August 1853 St Thomas Dudley
Benjamin Smith full widower labourer Dudley Samuel Smith dead Horsenail forger
Elizabeth Smith minor Spinster Dudley Joseph Smith chainmaker
banns
X both
Wit- X Peter Bradley /X Hannah Smith(this is prob Peter Bradney and either he is a Bradney or Bradley...husband of Hannah Smith

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =771093984

But Elizabeth father is Joseph

still dont see how Benjamin Smith with father Samuel
links to Samuel Smith living with him as widow in 1851
not bros

more info.....that selena death checks out
so I think this is his first marriage
she dies
and he remarries but is down as bach on 2nd marriage instead of widow.....



1851. Bowling Green, Dudley.
Benjamin Smith 29. Colliery lab. Mouth Sweet, Worcestershire.
Mary Smith 24. Wife. Bowling Green, Worcestershire.
Samuel Smith 22. Widow. Miner. Rowley, Staffordshire.

Could this be a prev marriage....possible
3 Dec 1848 St Thomas Dudley
Samuel Smith 20 bach miner Netherton William Smith deceased nailer
Selina Faulkner 20 spinster Netherton Joseph Faulkner deceased nailer
banns
X both
Wit- X Joseph Partridge / X Hannah Partridge

Jan,

Now you have validated Samual's first marriage to Selena he looks even more the most likely candidate to be the one that married Elizabeth (Betsy) Gaze, notwithstanding the batchelor/widower inconsistency. His father is identified twice on marriage records as William - nailer deceased!

I agree with your conclusion that he cannot be a brother to Benjamin (father Samual Smith) and if they are related perhaps it is as cousins, with the fathers (William and Samuel) being the brothers.

I will look at Samuel/Elizabeth's family again to see if I can find furthr clues.

thanks...H

I agree so will just move this to BC genealogy as a sticky as I want
to connect up the 2 Samuels with a note and this will remind me

connected and added some more
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =991436958

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