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Re: MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 2:44 pm
by grangers14
Possible Sarah with father Edward??


1851. Colley Street, West bromwich
Edward Taylor, head, 53, Road labourer, Bewdley
Mary, wife, 51
Thomas, son, 22, Coal miner
henry, son, 19, drawer at forge
John, son, 16, Coal Miner
Sarah, daur, 13,
Ann, daur, 11,
Luke, son, 3
All others born West Bromwich

1841. M? Greem West Bromwich
Edward Taylor, 40, labourer
Mary, 40,
Eliza, 20,
Jane, 17,
Mary, 15,
peter, 14,
Thomas, 12,
henry, 10,
John, 7,
Sarah, 4
William, 2
Ellen, 1
All born County

Re: MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 3:57 pm
by Antie Em
The above 1841 in West Bromwich is Mares Green, Jo

Maggie

Re: MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 4:51 pm
by expat66
Thanks for all your input... grangers and Antie Em,
Have to admit I'm a bit 'lost' with this one! :-?

My dad grew up on Henry Street and I recognise most of those street names from my dad's side of the tree. I guess all of these families would have known each other and intermarried...that's why it's so complicated!!... and with my dad's tree full of KETTLES, EVANS, TAYLORS, HEWITTS , DEARNES and HACKETTS.... it's tricky :!:

Expat :P

Re: MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 5:09 pm
by grangers14
I cant see a birth for a Jane Proctor. Can see a possible for Jane Taylor

Also that possible marriage is here on freesearch and doesnt include a fathers name for Jane
Jane Taylor
England Marriages, 1538-1973

birth 1855
marriage 25 Dec 1879 -West Bromwich, Stafford, Eng.
spouse: James Morgan

record title: England Marriages, 1538-1973
groom's name: James Morgan
groom's birth date: 1859
groom's age: 20
bride's name: Jane Taylor
bride's birth date: 1855
bride's age: 24
marriage date: 25 Dec 1879
marriage place: West Bromwich, Stafford, Eng.
groom's father's name: James Morgan
indexing project (batch) number: M05521-3
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1526219

It does look like Charles Morgan is as Grand son on the 1901 census with the proctor family too.

Re: MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 5:30 pm
by grangers14
Im going through and adding what I can...sometimes its more clear when its down :?
Jo :)

Re: MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:37 pm
by grangers14
Added Edward Taylor census and children here
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... lor-Family

William Proctor census and children here but have not added Jane as his daughter and added a not for her
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =560541883

I think if we check Janes Marriage record and see what that shows?

Now I have lost the plot of William has a father as Joseph?

Re: MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle

Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:27 pm
by expat66
Thanks for adding all of that granger14.

I think I 'lost the plot' a while ago :roll:

Yes... William has a Joseph TAYLOR down as his father. I can email you the marriage certificate if you would like.

I thought I had this all worked out a couple of months ago.... found a Joseph TAYLOR and family... it all seemed to fit.. then I found a 1901 census with a William TAYLOR still listed with the rest of that household.. and single... and suddenly it didn't fit any more... because he would have been married by then!
Why do there have to be so many TAYLORS :?

Expat

Re: MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 5:37 pm
by grangers14
The marriage info for William is on BCC thanks expat.

Other than asking the local reg office for a birth with mothers maiden name as Hewitt and see if it gives a clue where he was born I dont think we can go any further?

I have added the marriage for Jane to be looked up to see if a father does show up and if the witnesses help.

Archive?
Jo :)

Re: *Archive?* MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 5:47 pm
by expat66
Thanks Jo,
Yes... I think this might aswell be archived
Expat :P

Re: *Marriage looked up!* MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:43 pm
by grangers14
Auntie Em has looked this up Expat.

25.12.1879 : Christchurch, West Bromwich "“ Banns

James Morgan, 20, B, Puddler, West Bromwich, James Morgan, Puddler

Jane Taylor X, 24, S, West Bromwich "“ No father is recorded

Wit : Thomas Morgan X and Sarah Lapworth X


I havent added this to BCC yet but looks like its right and that Jane was born out of wedlock
Jo :)

Re: MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle-----Jo adding

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:56 am
by Northern Lass
are you still working on this or can it be archived?

Re: MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle-----Jo adding

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:18 pm
by grangers14
No I havent done it yet, will try a little later today.
Jo :)

Re: MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle-----Jo adding

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:53 pm
by grangers14