*Archive* MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle-----Jo adding
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Re: MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle
Possible Sarah with father Edward??
1851. Colley Street, West bromwich
Edward Taylor, head, 53, Road labourer, Bewdley
Mary, wife, 51
Thomas, son, 22, Coal miner
henry, son, 19, drawer at forge
John, son, 16, Coal Miner
Sarah, daur, 13,
Ann, daur, 11,
Luke, son, 3
All others born West Bromwich
1841. M? Greem West Bromwich
Edward Taylor, 40, labourer
Mary, 40,
Eliza, 20,
Jane, 17,
Mary, 15,
peter, 14,
Thomas, 12,
henry, 10,
John, 7,
Sarah, 4
William, 2
Ellen, 1
All born County
1851. Colley Street, West bromwich
Edward Taylor, head, 53, Road labourer, Bewdley
Mary, wife, 51
Thomas, son, 22, Coal miner
henry, son, 19, drawer at forge
John, son, 16, Coal Miner
Sarah, daur, 13,
Ann, daur, 11,
Luke, son, 3
All others born West Bromwich
1841. M? Greem West Bromwich
Edward Taylor, 40, labourer
Mary, 40,
Eliza, 20,
Jane, 17,
Mary, 15,
peter, 14,
Thomas, 12,
henry, 10,
John, 7,
Sarah, 4
William, 2
Ellen, 1
All born County
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Re: MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle
The above 1841 in West Bromwich is Mares Green, Jo
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Re: MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle
Thanks for all your input... grangers and Antie Em,
Have to admit I'm a bit 'lost' with this one!
My dad grew up on Henry Street and I recognise most of those street names from my dad's side of the tree. I guess all of these families would have known each other and intermarried...that's why it's so complicated!!... and with my dad's tree full of KETTLES, EVANS, TAYLORS, HEWITTS , DEARNES and HACKETTS.... it's tricky
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Have to admit I'm a bit 'lost' with this one!

My dad grew up on Henry Street and I recognise most of those street names from my dad's side of the tree. I guess all of these families would have known each other and intermarried...that's why it's so complicated!!... and with my dad's tree full of KETTLES, EVANS, TAYLORS, HEWITTS , DEARNES and HACKETTS.... it's tricky

Expat

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Re: MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle
I cant see a birth for a Jane Proctor. Can see a possible for Jane Taylor
Also that possible marriage is here on freesearch and doesnt include a fathers name for Jane
Jane Taylor
England Marriages, 1538-1973
birth 1855
marriage 25 Dec 1879 -West Bromwich, Stafford, Eng.
spouse: James Morgan
record title: England Marriages, 1538-1973
groom's name: James Morgan
groom's birth date: 1859
groom's age: 20
bride's name: Jane Taylor
bride's birth date: 1855
bride's age: 24
marriage date: 25 Dec 1879
marriage place: West Bromwich, Stafford, Eng.
groom's father's name: James Morgan
indexing project (batch) number: M05521-3
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1526219
It does look like Charles Morgan is as Grand son on the 1901 census with the proctor family too.
Also that possible marriage is here on freesearch and doesnt include a fathers name for Jane
Jane Taylor
England Marriages, 1538-1973
birth 1855
marriage 25 Dec 1879 -West Bromwich, Stafford, Eng.
spouse: James Morgan
record title: England Marriages, 1538-1973
groom's name: James Morgan
groom's birth date: 1859
groom's age: 20
bride's name: Jane Taylor
bride's birth date: 1855
bride's age: 24
marriage date: 25 Dec 1879
marriage place: West Bromwich, Stafford, Eng.
groom's father's name: James Morgan
indexing project (batch) number: M05521-3
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1526219
It does look like Charles Morgan is as Grand son on the 1901 census with the proctor family too.
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Re: MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle
Im going through and adding what I can...sometimes its more clear when its down
Jo

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Re: MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle
Added Edward Taylor census and children here
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... lor-Family
William Proctor census and children here but have not added Jane as his daughter and added a not for her
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =560541883
I think if we check Janes Marriage record and see what that shows?
Now I have lost the plot of William has a father as Joseph?
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... lor-Family
William Proctor census and children here but have not added Jane as his daughter and added a not for her
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =560541883
I think if we check Janes Marriage record and see what that shows?
Now I have lost the plot of William has a father as Joseph?
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Re: MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle
Thanks for adding all of that granger14.
I think I 'lost the plot' a while ago
Yes... William has a Joseph TAYLOR down as his father. I can email you the marriage certificate if you would like.
I thought I had this all worked out a couple of months ago.... found a Joseph TAYLOR and family... it all seemed to fit.. then I found a 1901 census with a William TAYLOR still listed with the rest of that household.. and single... and suddenly it didn't fit any more... because he would have been married by then!
Why do there have to be so many TAYLORS
Expat
I think I 'lost the plot' a while ago

Yes... William has a Joseph TAYLOR down as his father. I can email you the marriage certificate if you would like.
I thought I had this all worked out a couple of months ago.... found a Joseph TAYLOR and family... it all seemed to fit.. then I found a 1901 census with a William TAYLOR still listed with the rest of that household.. and single... and suddenly it didn't fit any more... because he would have been married by then!
Why do there have to be so many TAYLORS

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Re: MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle
The marriage info for William is on BCC thanks expat.
Other than asking the local reg office for a birth with mothers maiden name as Hewitt and see if it gives a clue where he was born I dont think we can go any further?
I have added the marriage for Jane to be looked up to see if a father does show up and if the witnesses help.
Archive?
Jo
Other than asking the local reg office for a birth with mothers maiden name as Hewitt and see if it gives a clue where he was born I dont think we can go any further?
I have added the marriage for Jane to be looked up to see if a father does show up and if the witnesses help.
Archive?
Jo

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Re: *Archive?* MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle
Thanks Jo,
Yes... I think this might aswell be archived
Expat
Yes... I think this might aswell be archived
Expat

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Re: *Marriage looked up!* MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle
Auntie Em has looked this up Expat.
25.12.1879 : Christchurch, West Bromwich "“ Banns
James Morgan, 20, B, Puddler, West Bromwich, James Morgan, Puddler
Jane Taylor X, 24, S, West Bromwich "“ No father is recorded
Wit : Thomas Morgan X and Sarah Lapworth X
I havent added this to BCC yet but looks like its right and that Jane was born out of wedlock
Jo
25.12.1879 : Christchurch, West Bromwich "“ Banns
James Morgan, 20, B, Puddler, West Bromwich, James Morgan, Puddler
Jane Taylor X, 24, S, West Bromwich "“ No father is recorded
Wit : Thomas Morgan X and Sarah Lapworth X
I havent added this to BCC yet but looks like its right and that Jane was born out of wedlock
Jo

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Re: MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle-----Jo adding
are you still working on this or can it be archived?
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Re: MORGAN/ TAYLOR/ PROCTOR muddle-----Jo adding
No I havent done it yet, will try a little later today.
Jo
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