ARC TBC - Batchelor.... query on this one

FarSide · Post by **FarSide** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:46 am

Poss
1881
Allports Dingle, Kingswinford
Cornelius Allport 63 - Clay miner
Sophia Allport 64
David Allport 36 - Clay miner
Sarah Ann Allport 33 - b Woodside
Zachariah Allport 23 - Tradesman
Louisa Allport 23 - b Lye
Ann Maria E. Steadman 10 - granddaug - b Stourbridge

Poss parents
1869
ALPORT Rebecca P STEDMAN Thomas Wordsley, Holy Trinity Dudley Register Office 018/005/116

Marriages Jun 1869
Alport Rebecca Pearson Stourbridge 6c 188
Stedman Thomas Stourbridge 6c 188

Antie Em · Post by **Antie Em** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:20 am

WP&JP wrote:Hi Antie Em and thank you do you know who John and Elisabeth parents were please?
Have just been tring to find My Granddas birth cert but due to decorating cannot find it at the Moment.
JP

Sorry - no I don't know who they are, I just know Burnt Tree and was pointing out that it is in Tipton, not Stourbridge. :-)

WP&JP · Post by **WP&JP** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:25 pm

Hi
This is the Brick wall we keep hitting
I know my Grandfather Richard was born in 1897and Married Elsie May Organ
Dec 24th 1917
Richard Batchelor age 20 Ironworker 16 burnt tree John Thomas Batchelor lab (I think this may be his brother)
Elsie Organ 20 16 burnt tree Charles Organ ironworker
Witness Albert Covers or Couers Annie Batchelor

Then on his birth cert reads his father was John And his Mom Ann

Cannot get any futher back
we have tried and tried
Samuel John,,,, John,,,,,, Samuel keep coming up I know our uncle was named John Samuel

I dont know if I should have put this topic in Lookup requests being new to the site.

JP

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:12 pm

You have posted in the right section

can we add any of this to BCC?
might help fathom it out
not been thru it ...................any of these on BCC?

grangers14 · Post by **grangers14** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:28 pm

I havent seen them on Bcc NL

What about 1911 census has that been found?

WP&JP · Post by **WP&JP** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:48 pm

Hi Thank you
Yes It can be added to bcc

WP

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:58 pm

will flag this if someone can go through and add what is good info
to BCC or I will if I get time :shock:

peterd · Post by **peterd** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:02 pm

FarSide wrote:Was her surname Steadman?
I see this, but doesn't make sense..

Marriages Dec 1888
ANDREWS Isaac Stourbridge 6c 238
BUCKNALL James Stourbridge 6c 238
LEYSHON Sarah Elizabeth Stourbridge 6c 238
STEADMAN Ann Maria E Stourbridge 6c 238

1888
STEADMAN Ann M E ANDREWS Isaac Brierley Hill, St Michael Dudley Register Office 210/004/123

can anyone find these in 1891 and 1901 ?

Antie Em · Post by **Antie Em** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:28 am

linell wrote:There's only the one John Batchelor on the 1861 Census at Brierley Hill, would be Stourbridge Registration District:-

BOTTOM OF DELPH LANE

Given Name Family Name Relation Condition Age
THOMAS CROW Head Married 60 yrs
ELIZABETH CROW Wife Married 50 yrs
THOMAS BATCHELOR Son in Law Married 29 yrs
ELIZABETH BATCHELOR Wife Married 29 yrs
EMMA BATCHELOR Granddaughter 5 yrs
JOHN BATCHELOR " 3 yrs
CAROLINE BATCHELOR " 1 yrs

This is Julia A Batchelor on image

Have added this family to BCC (just in case) they are related

Antie Em · Post by **Antie Em** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:06 am

Added Family here : http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =596505280

Can't find in 1901

Added Collins family with John Batchelor here : http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =811661784

There is only one birth registered around this time in the area for John Batchelor
Dec Qtr 1851 - Stourbridge District - Sub District of Kingswinford

Marriage for Thomas Collins and Mary Batchelor (John's sister?)

1874 : COLLINS Thomas BACHELOR Mary E Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/005/446

John is married and with sister Mary and family in 1891

There is a marriage for John Bachelor to Hannah Chance - 1875 - St Andrew, Dudley

In 1891 Hannah Batchelor, Aged 38, Born in Amblecote and married is with brother in Law James Tilly and Family in Amblecote

There is only one Richard Bachelor born around this time in Stourbridge District

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:30 am

WP&JP wrote:Hi
Found it
It reads 1897 Subdistrict of Kingswinford County of Stafford
24th March 1897
Richard
Father John Batchelor
Mother Ann Maria Elizabeth Batchelor formally Steadman
The mark x Ann maria Elizabeth Batchelor Potter Street Brierley Hill

Thank you
JP

FarSide wrote:Was her surname Steadman?
I see this, but doesn't make sense..

Marriages Dec 1888
ANDREWS Isaac Stourbridge 6c 238
BUCKNALL James Stourbridge 6c 238
LEYSHON Sarah Elizabeth Stourbridge 6c 238
STEADMAN Ann Maria E Stourbridge 6c 238

1888
STEADMAN Ann M E ANDREWS Isaac Brierley Hill, St Michael Dudley Register Office 210/004/123

I have slotted in her name
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =298560653

but where are John and "Elizabeth " in 1901?

where is the marriage for a John Batchelor?

Antie Em · Post by **Antie Em** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:46 am

Can't find a marriage anywhere - Can't find John and Elizabeth in 1901

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:30 am

Antie Em wrote:Can't find a marriage anywhere - Can't find John and Elizabeth in 1901

that is so odd

So we have mother as Ann Maria Elizabeth Steadman from Richards birth certif
Then in 1881 we have a possible Ann Maria E Steadman with family

then this poss marriage

1888
STEADMAN Ann M E ANDREWS Isaac Brierley Hill, St Michael Dudley Register Office 210/004/123

be interesting to see if father Thomas

where is Isaac andrews in 1891?

kids for John Batchelor and "eliz" come along 1895

so where is she in 1891?

does Isaac die
or is he still alive hence no marriage to John

Antie Em · Post by **Antie Em** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:20 pm

Can't find death in the area for Isaac

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:33 am

Antie Em wrote:Added Family here : http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =596505280

Can't find in 1901

Added Collins family with John Batchelor here : http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =811661784

There is only one birth registered around this time in the area for John Batchelor
Dec Qtr 1851 - Stourbridge District - Sub District of Kingswinford

Marriage for Thomas Collins and Mary Batchelor (John's sister?)

1874 : COLLINS Thomas BACHELOR Mary E Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/005/446

John is married and with sister Mary and family in 1891

There is a marriage for John Bachelor to Hannah Chance - 1875 - St Andrew, Dudley

In 1891 Hannah Batchelor, Aged 38, Born in Amblecote and married is with brother in Law James Tilly and Family in Amblecote

There is only one Richard Bachelor born around this time in Stourbridge District

Wonder if they were both married John Batchelor and Ann Maria Steadman
to other folk!

I will look up marriages

but maybe that birth certif needs to be obtained WP

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