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Re: The Sylvia WEAVER, John RAY and James Henry EVANS triang

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:57 pm
by cid
1911 20 Dunns Bank Kingswinford

EVANS, James Henry Head Married M 68 1843 Unemployed Staffordshire Quarry Bank
EVANS, Sylvia Wife Married 47 years F 68 1843 Staffordshire Netherton
EVANS, John Son Single M 28 1883 Labourer Underground Staffordshire Quarry Bank
EVANS, Arthur Son Single M 23 1888 Labourer Underground Staffordshire Quarry Bank

9 Children born 7 Still alive

Re: The Sylvia WEAVER, John RAY and James Henry EVANS triang

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:59 pm
by cid
cid wrote:1911 20 Dunns Bank Kingswinford

EVANS, James Henry Head Married M 68 1843 Unemployed Staffordshire Quarry Bank
EVANS, Sylvia Wife Married 47 years F 68 1843 Staffordshire Netherton
EVANS, John Son Single M 28 1883 Labourer Underground Staffordshire Quarry Bank
EVANS, Arthur Son Single M 23 1888 Labourer Underground Staffordshire Quarry Bank

9 Children born 7 Still alive


:shock:
Why would James allow his son to be called John if his wife had an affair with John Ray, Is this child also John Rays :?:

Re: The Sylvia WEAVER, John RAY and James Henry EVANS triang

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:07 pm
by Northern Lass
is James b 1880 James Thomas?

1880
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
EVANS James T Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/116/23

Re: The Sylvia WEAVER, John RAY and James Henry EVANS triang

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:14 pm
by cid
serreth wrote:
cid wrote:1871 Dunns Bank Kingswinford

EVANS, Jas Hy Head M 25 1846 Staffordshire occupation looks like Shingler???
EVANS, Sylvia Wife F 25 1846 Worcestershire
EVANS, Walter Son M 0 1871 Worcestershire

Nesxt Door

EVANS Richard Head 66 Spade ??? Turner?? Worcs Stourbridge
EVANS Elizabeth Wife 62 -do-



The Richard EVANS and Elizabeth next door are the parents of James Henry I think... Although he has a different name again on the previous census. All very confusing.


also on same page
EVANS Henry Head 63 Manager in iron Oldswinford
EVANS Mary Wife 62
EVANS Fanny Daughter 18? Servant

Re: The Sylvia WEAVER, John RAY and James Henry EVANS triang

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:21 pm
by serreth
cid wrote:
cid wrote:1911 20 Dunns Bank Kingswinford

EVANS, James Henry Head Married M 68 1843 Unemployed Staffordshire Quarry Bank
EVANS, Sylvia Wife Married 47 years F 68 1843 Staffordshire Netherton
EVANS, John Son Single M 28 1883 Labourer Underground Staffordshire Quarry Bank
EVANS, Arthur Son Single M 23 1888 Labourer Underground Staffordshire Quarry Bank

9 Children born 7 Still alive


:shock:
Why would James allow his son to be called John if his wife had an affair with John Ray, Is this child also John Rays :?:


But he was born 2 years after James Henry and Sylvia appeared on the 1881 census together.

Re: The Sylvia WEAVER, John RAY and James Henry EVANS triang

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:23 pm
by serreth
Northern Lass wrote:is James b 1880 James Thomas?

1880
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
EVANS James T Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/116/23


That is what I assumed! :)

Re: The Sylvia WEAVER, John RAY and James Henry EVANS triang

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:47 pm
by serreth
cid wrote:
cid wrote:1911 20 Dunns Bank Kingswinford

EVANS, James Henry Head Married M 68 1843 Unemployed Staffordshire Quarry Bank
EVANS, Sylvia Wife Married 47 years F 68 1843 Staffordshire Netherton
EVANS, John Son Single M 28 1883 Labourer Underground Staffordshire Quarry Bank
EVANS, Arthur Son Single M 23 1888 Labourer Underground Staffordshire Quarry Bank

9 Children born 7 Still alive


:shock:
Why would James allow his son to be called John if his wife had an affair with John Ray, Is this child also John Rays :?:


1883
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
RAY John Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/125/315

:wink:

Re: The Sylvia WEAVER, John RAY and James Henry EVANS triang

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:17 pm
by serreth
While I think about it I want to thank you all for your help tonight! :D Everything is a little clearer now! :D

Re: The Sylvia WEAVER, John RAY and James Henry EVANS triang

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:47 am
by Northern Lass
Think we need a list of all those kids with possible births and have a look on the wmbsgh
and those with Kingswinford would be a possible

then armed with that you can contact the regis office

can we help serreth compile a list of those kids pls.....

rocky you up....you got that 1869 marriage plz chuckie ... :grin:

Re: The Sylvia WEAVER, John RAY and James Henry EVANS triang

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:07 am
by Northern Lass
Rockyfowler has come up trumps again
he has looked this up.......

8 Feb 1869 St Andrew Dudley
James Henry EVANS F B Shingler Netherton Father Richard Evans Tree Turner
Sylvia WEAVER F S Netherton Father Samuel Weaver Chain Maker
Wit; Matthew Strood X Priscilla Weaver X


it is same sylvia so I will add that to Bcc

thanks rocky :wink:

Re: NL to add-Sylvia WEAVER-John RAY-James Henry EVANS trian

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:53 am
by Northern Lass
where is the birth regis for Henrietta

"1881 census is the right age for my gg Grandmother Henrietta M. EVANS "

born about 1874?
aged 7 on 1881

cant see her should be stourbridge kingswinford?
there is this one...

1876
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
EVANS Henrietta L Stourbridge Dudley Register Office STO/067/237

Re: NL to add-Sylvia WEAVER-John RAY-James Henry EVANS trian

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:58 am
by Northern Lass
List of kids birth regis....poss..

1868
EVANS Walter W Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/080/353


1877
RAY Susannah Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/150/77


1880
EVANS James T Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/116/23

Re: NL to add-Sylvia WEAVER-John RAY-James Henry EVANS trian

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:04 am
by Northern Lass
do we have this family on the 1891 and 1901 pls

Re: NL to add-Sylvia WEAVER-John RAY-James Henry EVANS trian

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:32 pm
by grangers14
1891. Dunns Bank, Kingswinford
Henry Evans, head, 46, shingler,
Sylvia, wife, 46? Dudley
Walter, son, 22? Chain works assistant, Dudley
Susan, daur, 13, Dudley
John, son, 8, Dudley
Alice, daur, 6,
Arthur, son, 5
All others born Quarry bank

1901. 20 Dunns bank, Quarry bank
James Henry Evans, head, 55, Gardener
Sylvia, wife, 56,
James? Thomas, 21, Clay miner
John, son, 19,
Alice, daur, 17,
Arthur, son, 15,
All born Quarry bank

Re: NL to add-Sylvia WEAVER-John RAY-James Henry EVANS trian

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:49 pm
by serreth
Northern Lass wrote:where is the birth regis for Henrietta

"1881 census is the right age for my gg Grandmother Henrietta M. EVANS "

born about 1874?
aged 7 on 1881

cant see her should be stourbridge kingswinford?
there is this one...

1876
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
EVANS Henrietta L Stourbridge Dudley Register Office STO/067/237


This is the correct one for Henrietta I believe. Going on what I already have!

1873
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
EVANS Henrietta Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/132/280


I have the marriage cert for her and Foley HUGHES which took place on 24th October 1892.

1892
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HUGHES Foley EVANS Henrietta Lye, Christ Church Dudley Register Office 011/001/390


I'll dig out the marriage cert over the next few days to give all the info! :)

Here they all are on my tree!