*Archive* Sylvia WEAVER-John RAY-James Henry EVANS triangle!

[cid]

1911 20 Dunns Bank Kingswinford

EVANS, James Henry Head Married M 68 1843 Unemployed Staffordshire Quarry Bank
EVANS, Sylvia Wife Married 47 years F 68 1843 Staffordshire Netherton
EVANS, John Son Single M 28 1883 Labourer Underground Staffordshire Quarry Bank
EVANS, Arthur Son Single M 23 1888 Labourer Underground Staffordshire Quarry Bank

9 Children born 7 Still alive

[cid]

1911 20 Dunns Bank Kingswinford

EVANS, James Henry Head Married M 68 1843 Unemployed Staffordshire Quarry Bank
EVANS, Sylvia Wife Married 47 years F 68 1843 Staffordshire Netherton
EVANS, John Son Single M 28 1883 Labourer Underground Staffordshire Quarry Bank
EVANS, Arthur Son Single M 23 1888 Labourer Underground Staffordshire Quarry Bank

9 Children born 7 Still alive

Why would James allow his son to be called John if his wife had an affair with John Ray, Is this child also John Rays

[Northern Lass]

is James b 1880 James Thomas?

1880
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
EVANS James T Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/116/23

[cid]

1871 Dunns Bank Kingswinford

EVANS, Jas Hy Head M 25 1846 Staffordshire occupation looks like Shingler???
EVANS, Sylvia Wife F 25 1846 Worcestershire
EVANS, Walter Son M 0 1871 Worcestershire

Nesxt Door

EVANS Richard Head 66 Spade ??? Turner?? Worcs Stourbridge
EVANS Elizabeth Wife 62 -do-

The Richard EVANS and Elizabeth next door are the parents of James Henry I think... Although he has a different name again on the previous census. All very confusing.

also on same page
EVANS Henry Head 63 Manager in iron Oldswinford
EVANS Mary Wife 62
EVANS Fanny Daughter 18? Servant

[serreth]

1911 20 Dunns Bank Kingswinford

EVANS, James Henry Head Married M 68 1843 Unemployed Staffordshire Quarry Bank
EVANS, Sylvia Wife Married 47 years F 68 1843 Staffordshire Netherton
EVANS, John Son Single M 28 1883 Labourer Underground Staffordshire Quarry Bank
EVANS, Arthur Son Single M 23 1888 Labourer Underground Staffordshire Quarry Bank

9 Children born 7 Still alive

Why would James allow his son to be called John if his wife had an affair with John Ray, Is this child also John Rays

But he was born 2 years after James Henry and Sylvia appeared on the 1881 census together.

[serreth]

is James b 1880 James Thomas?

1880
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
EVANS James T Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/116/23

That is what I assumed!

[serreth]

1911 20 Dunns Bank Kingswinford

EVANS, James Henry Head Married M 68 1843 Unemployed Staffordshire Quarry Bank
EVANS, Sylvia Wife Married 47 years F 68 1843 Staffordshire Netherton
EVANS, John Son Single M 28 1883 Labourer Underground Staffordshire Quarry Bank
EVANS, Arthur Son Single M 23 1888 Labourer Underground Staffordshire Quarry Bank

9 Children born 7 Still alive

Why would James allow his son to be called John if his wife had an affair with John Ray, Is this child also John Rays

1883
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
RAY John Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/125/315

[serreth]

While I think about it I want to thank you all for your help tonight! Everything is a little clearer now!

[Northern Lass]

Think we need a list of all those kids with possible births and have a look on the wmbsgh
and those with Kingswinford would be a possible

then armed with that you can contact the regis office

can we help serreth compile a list of those kids pls.....

rocky you up....you got that 1869 marriage plz chuckie ...

[Northern Lass]

Rockyfowler has come up trumps again
he has looked this up.......

8 Feb 1869 St Andrew Dudley
James Henry EVANS F B Shingler Netherton Father Richard Evans Tree Turner
Sylvia WEAVER F S Netherton Father Samuel Weaver Chain Maker
Wit; Matthew Strood X Priscilla Weaver X


it is same sylvia so I will add that to Bcc

thanks rocky

[Northern Lass]

where is the birth regis for Henrietta

"1881 census is the right age for my gg Grandmother Henrietta M. EVANS "

born about 1874?
aged 7 on 1881

cant see her should be stourbridge kingswinford?
there is this one...

1876
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
EVANS Henrietta L Stourbridge Dudley Register Office STO/067/237

[Northern Lass]

List of kids birth regis....poss..

1868
EVANS Walter W Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/080/353


1877
RAY Susannah Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/150/77


1880
EVANS James T Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/116/23

[Northern Lass]

do we have this family on the 1891 and 1901 pls

[grangers14]

1891. Dunns Bank, Kingswinford
Henry Evans, head, 46, shingler,
Sylvia, wife, 46? Dudley
Walter, son, 22? Chain works assistant, Dudley
Susan, daur, 13, Dudley
John, son, 8, Dudley
Alice, daur, 6,
Arthur, son, 5
All others born Quarry bank

1901. 20 Dunns bank, Quarry bank
James Henry Evans, head, 55, Gardener
Sylvia, wife, 56,
James? Thomas, 21, Clay miner
John, son, 19,
Alice, daur, 17,
Arthur, son, 15,
All born Quarry bank

[serreth]

where is the birth regis for Henrietta

"1881 census is the right age for my gg Grandmother Henrietta M. EVANS "

born about 1874?
aged 7 on 1881

cant see her should be stourbridge kingswinford?
there is this one...

1876
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
EVANS Henrietta L Stourbridge Dudley Register Office STO/067/237

This is the correct one for Henrietta I believe. Going on what I already have!

1873
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
EVANS Henrietta Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/132/280

I have the marriage cert for her and Foley HUGHES which took place on 24th October 1892.

1892
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HUGHES Foley EVANS Henrietta Lye, Christ Church Dudley Register Office 011/001/390

I'll dig out the marriage cert over the next few days to give all the info!

Here they all are on my tree!