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need the 1841 and 1851 for Samuel to Add to BCC

we can't add Jane until check those census out

can anyone post them pls

so looks like James Betts and Letitia are sibs

and that marriage for Jane Betts dau of James would be niece to Letitia

Northern Lass wrote:need the 1841 and 1851 for Samuel to Add to BCC

Which Samuel?
born 1818 or 1841?

Samuel snr
presume Samuel jnr on both?

1851:
Kings Norton, Harborne
Samuel Hall Head 33 abt 1818 Male Staffordshire, England
Letitia Hall Wife 32 abt 1819 Female Staffordshire, England
Samuel Hall Son 9 abt 1842 Male Staffordshire, England
Sarah Hall Daughter 2 abt 1849 Female Staffordshire, England
Hannah Hall Daughter 2 MO abt 1851 Female Staffordshire, England

1841
Kings Norton, Harborne
Samuel Hall 20 abt 1821 Male add Staffordshire England
Lettichen Hall 20 abt 1821 Female add Staffordshire England
Thomas Hall 3 abt 1838 Male add Staffordshire England

Northern Lass wrote:Here you go FS look up done by Rockyfowler

rockyfowler wrote:21 July 1872 St Giles rowley Regis
Samuel HALL 45 W Fitter Smethwick Father Joseph Hall Fitter
Jane BETTS 40 S Smethwick Father James Betts Labourer The Marks of Both
Wit; Job Siviter X Sarah Siviter X

did you get that look up I emailed you too?

I think this is the marriage and he lied about his age

As FS said this could help
the birth cert for Frederick

say you only want it if father for frederick is a Samuel and mother Jane
dont give her maiden name


1871
Roe Buck Street, West Bromwich
Samuel Hall 50 - Fitter
Jane Hall 40
Joseph Hall 14 - Forge man
James Hall 12 - Works in a forge
William Hall 8
Frederick Hall 3
George Hall 8
Ada Hall 8 Months
Emma Hall 17
all b West Bromwich


1868
HALL Frederick Harborne Sandwell Register Office HAR/30/424

Thanks NL - will order certs!

Fatman wrote:Thanks NL - will order certs!

any marriage ones FM just flag as we can prob look those up for you
unless birmingham

you know about the bmsgh site don't you?
which gives you the year and church

i know of the bmsgh but not that particular feature - where on the website is it?

Fatman wrote:i know of the bmsgh but not that particular feature - where on the website is it?

ok if you go to the home page here
http://www.bmsgh.org/

scroll down
left hand side click on the west midlands one

http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/

then go to green tab marriages
http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/marriages.php
click on search marriages on right bottom
http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/cgi/m ... stmidlands

then search by name
http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/cgi/m ... ds#surname

then put your years in
and name
use soundex if needs be

try it

put in 1872 and Jane betts
you get this

1872
BETTS Jane HALL Samuel Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/4/325

the last numbers ie 325 would be the entry no in the PR for St Giles RR year 1872
so if you were in archives you would be able to go straight to that marriage

Thanks - that looks helpful
1 question tho, rockyfowler did a lookup, but there werent details of if they were bachelor, spinster etc
Would that not be in the records kooked up? would i need the cert?

Northern Lass wrote:

Northern Lass wrote:Here you go FS look up done by Rockyfowler

rockyfowler wrote:21 July 1872 St Giles rowley Regis
Samuel HALL 45 W Fitter Smethwick Father Joseph Hall Fitter
Jane BETTS 40 S Smethwick Father James Betts Labourer The Marks of Both
Wit; Job Siviter X Sarah Siviter X

did you get that look up I emailed you too?

I think this is the marriage and he lied about his age

Samuel was a Widower and Jane single

whoops missed that! - Could well be that one then!

It's him!! I know it is feel it in me water!!

but the certif for one of the kids will help!

are we done on this pending birth certif for freddie?