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Northern Lass wrote:any marriages for either of them?

we can check wits

do we have them on census at all to check dob too and place of birth

Abraham Smith.
Bride's Name Phillis Lord.
Marriage Date 19 Jul 1813.
Marriage Place Halesowen, Salop.
Groom's Marital Status Single.
Bride's Marital Status Single.

Thos. Smith.
Baptism/Christening Date 01 May 1808.
Baptism/Christening Place Oldbury, Worcester
Father's Name Eli Smith.
Mother's Name Ann Smith.

Hannah Smith.
Baptism/Christening Date 02 Sep 1821.
Baptism/Christening Place Oldbury,Worcester
Father's Name Eli Smith.
Mother's Name Ann Smith.

I think this could be Abrahams brother...not sure

WILLIAM SMITH
Marriages:
Spouse: CHARLOTTE POWER
Marriage: 24 OCT 1813 Saint Marys, Handsworth, Stafford,
Extracted

the powers are connected to the Cartwrights

Eiza Smith.
Baptism/Christening Date 24 Feb 1811.
Baptism/Christening Place Oldbury, Worcester.
Father's Name Elias Smith.
Mother's Name Ann Smith.

So is there a marriage for an Elias and ann via the beta site pls ?

Can't see one anywhere yet.

poss for abraham...

ABRAHAM SMITH
Christening: 09 FEB 1794 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Parents:
Father: CORNELIUS SMITH
Mother: HANH. Extracted

can we find Abraham on 1851 to pin down his dob pls

1841. Birchyfield Lane, Oldbury,
Abraham Smith, 45, Nailer
Phillis, 45,
Bessy, 10,
Abraham, 10,
Phillis, 5,
Ann, 2

1851. Church Bridge, Oldbury
Abraham Smith, head, 57, Nailer, Rowley Regis
Philliss, wife, 55, Nailer, Rowley Regis
Abraham, son, 21, Puddler
Philliss, daur, 18, Nailer
Ann Maria, daur, 12,
Louisa, grand daur, 8
All others born Oldbury

Thomas Cartwright and Eliza Smith are living next to Abraham,

1841, Birchyfield Lane, Oldbury
Thomas Cartwright, 20, Coal Miner
Eliza, 15,
Phillis, 1
All born County

1851. Church Bridge Oldbury
Thomas Cartwright, head, 33, Coal Miner
Eliza, wife, 28, Nailor
Philliss, daur, 10,
James, son, 7,
Thomas, son, 2,
Abraham, 3 months
All born Oldbury

This is a bit odd?? From beta family search, same date etc but mothers name??

Hannah Smith

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Oldbury, Worcester, England
parents: Eli Smith, Mary Smith
record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Hannah Smith
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 02 Sep 1821
baptism/christening place: Oldbury,Worcester, England
father's name: Eli Smith
mother's name: Mary Smith
indexing project (batch) number: I01084-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 6085650


Hannah Smith

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Oldbury, Worcester, England
parents: Eli Smith, Ann Smith

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Hannah Smith
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 02 Sep 1821
baptism/christening place: Oldbury,Worcester, England
father's name: Eli Smith
mother's name: Ann Smith indexing project (batch) number: I01084-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 6085650

Northern Lass wrote:poss for abraham...

ABRAHAM SMITH
Christening: 09 FEB 1794 Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Parents:
Father: CORNELIUS SMITH
Mother: HANH. Extracted

can we find Abraham on 1851 to pin down his dob pls

I think it is this one

anymore kids for them cant see any on IGI normal one

So is she a mary ann mother to Hannah and wife to Eli ?Elias

???
1841. Birchyfield Lane, Oldbury
Mary, 55, Nailer,
William, 30, Nailer
Nancy, 14,
Thomas, 8,
Jacob, 8,
William, 3,
All born County.

the following page has,
Park Street, Oldbury
Eli Smith 20, Nailer
Mary, 20,

1851. Church Bridge, Oldbury
Benjamin Edwards, 25, Coal Miner
Nancy, wife, 24,
John, son, 2,
Mary Smith, Mother in Law, 65, Nailer
Thomas Smith, son of do, 28, Coal Miner

Beta family search
Nancy Smith

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Worcester, England
parents: Eli Smith, Mary Smith

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Nancy Smith
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 03 Dec 1826
baptism/christening place: Oldbury,Worcester, England
father's name: Eli Smith
mother's name: Mary Smith
indexing project (batch) number: I01084-0
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 6085650


Nancy Smith

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Stafford, England
parents: Thomas Smith, Mary

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Nancy Smith
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 11 Jun 1826
baptism/christening place: SEDGLEY, STAFFORD, ENGLAND
father's name: Thomas Smith
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: C00998-8
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1040789


Nancy Smith

England Marriages, 1538-1973
parents: Eli Smith
spouse: Benjamin Edwards
marriage: 1847 - St. Martin, Tipton, Stafford, England

record title: England Marriages, 1538-1973
groom's name: Benjamin Edwards
bride's name: Nancy Smith
marriage date: 1847
marriage place: St. Martin, Tipton, Stafford, England
groom's father's name: John Edwards
bride's father's name: Eli Smith
indexing project (batch) number: M16744-8
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1526189

Jo can you add what you think as you go along
I will help later
just trying to get my head around the tromans

??
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1839
SMITH Eli MORRIS Mary A West Bromwich, All Saints Sandwell Register Office 22/1/389