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Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:35 pm
by linell
Hi all, don't know if this ties in but I have Elisha Bissell born 1814 RR Married Elizabeth Willetts 1815 Halesowen at Old Swinford 3.4.1836. Elizabeth is the daughter of George Willetts and Sarah Harris. Elisha and Elizabeth had children, Sarah 1836, Fanny 1838, Elisha 1840, Joseph 1842, Elizabeth 1844, Mary Ann 1847, Hannah 1848, Benjamin 1850, Wm and John both born about 1857? Best Wishes linell.
Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:13 pm
by peterd
Northern Lass wrote:Have done a look up on a marriage and the occupation is this...and I have seen it now a few times....
a Fosbrook norton - well that is what it looked like
wot is it??

found this
Forsbrook, Stafford - its a place
Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:44 pm
by Carol
What a detective

Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:59 pm
by FarSide
Possible
1891
38 Pear Street, Rowley
Samuel Bissell 44 - Chainmaker - born Cradley
Hannah E Bissell 42 - Chainmaker
Florry Bissell 14 - Chainmaker
Constance P Bissell 11
Fanny M Bissell 7
Mary E Bissell 5
Others born Rowley
Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:05 pm
by FarSide
2 Possibles
#1
1851
20
Hew Road, Cradley
Ann Bissell 1 week
Joseph Bissell 27
Samuel Bissell 4
Susannah Bissell 29 - born Halesowen
Others born Cradley
#2
1851
30
Gibbett Lane, Hasbury
Emila Bissell 2 - born Halesowen
Hannah Bissell 10 Mo - born Hasbury
Neri Bissell 26 - Gun Barrel grinder
Samuel Bissell 4
Simion Bissell 25
William Bissell 6
Others born Cradley
Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:27 pm
by Northern Lass
theres that Neri again .... and the name Florrie
I wonder if Neri Bissell had sons John who married Mary a. White and Samuel who married hannah Willetts
so we need a look up to see if father is neri dont we?
John called his dau in 2nd marriage to an Ann Florrie......

Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:46 pm
by FarSide
1861
90
Gibbet Lane, Hasbury
Emily Bissell 12 - Nail forger - born Halesowen
Hannah Bissell 10 - Nail forger - born Hasbury
Jemima Bissell 35 - Nail forger - born Cradley
John Bissell 6 - born Hasbury
Joseph Bissell 8 - born Hasbury
Mary Bissell 4 - born Hasbury
Neri Bissell 34 - Gun barrell grinder
Neri Bissell 2 - born Hasbury
Samuel Bissell 14 - Ironworks Lab - born Cradley
William Bissell 16 - Ironworks Lab- born Cradley
1871
131
Gibbet Lane, Cradley
Emily Bissell 22
Jimmima Bissell 45
John Bissell 16
Joseph Bissell 18
Mary Bissell 14
Neri Bissell 47
Neri Bissell 18
Olive Bissell 2 - born Hasbury
Sarah Bissell 8 - born Hasbury
Thomas Bissell 6 - born Hasbury
Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:54 pm
by Northern Lass
Ok so do we think that this Neri Bissell with John here...
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnectionshad this Samuel too here...
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnectionsI think they are bros Samuel and John and I can join the tree up...need the look up to back it up so will add it to look ups
Wot do we think?
Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:25 am
by dianel
FarSide wrote:Possible
1891
38 Pear Street, Rowley
Samuel Bissell 44 - Chainmaker - born Cradley
Hannah E Bissell 42 - Chainmaker
Florry Bissell 14 - Chainmaker
Constance P Bissell 11
Fanny M Bissell 7
Mary E Bissell 5
Others born Rowley
Hmmm... In my tree I have Benjamin WILLETTs (!!!) married to a Flora BISSELL.
In the 1901 Census there is:
Pearson Street., Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis
Benjamin Willetts Head 28 Chain maker b. Rowley Regis
Flora Willetts Wife 24 b. Rowley Regis
Isaac Willetts Son 6 months b. Rowley Regis
Then 3 entries away, there is:
Samuel BISSELL Head 54 Chain maker b. Worcs., Cradley
Elizabeth BISSELL Wife 52 b. Rowley Regis
Constance P BISSELL Dau 21 Dressmaker b. Rowley Regis
Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:06 am
by linell
Hi NL I have some notes for Neri Bissell, no DOB but he had two daughters Emily 1848 Cradley Married Alfred Withers and Hannah Bissell 1849 Cradley Married John Withers, brothers maybe, I haven't checked as they are not in my tree? Best Wishes from linell.
Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:57 am
by Jimmy
1881 he is down as NEAL BISSELL.
Neal BISSELL. Head M Male 56 Cradley, Worcester, Gun Barrel Grinder
Jemmima BISSELL. Wife M Female 55 Cradley, Worcester,
Sarah BISSELL. Daur Female 17 Halesowen, Worcester, Button Fty Examiner Goods
Thomas BISSELL. Son Male 16 Halesowen, Worcester, Lab Gun Barrel Wks
Olive BISSELL. Daur Female 12 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Elizabeth BISSELL. Daur Female 9 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Dwelling Gibbet Lane
Census Place Hasbury, Worcester, England
Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:20 am
by Carol
Further to Peter's discovery that Forsbrook is a place, Norton is a small pace near to Forsbrook in Staffordshire-put it into Google map
ST6 8BZ
Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:32 am
by Jimmy
SAMUEL BISSELL.
Christening, 26 SEP 1847. Halesowen, Worcester,
JOHN BISSELL.
Christening, 24 MAR 1856. Halesowen, Worcester,
MARY BISSELL.
Christening, 25 MAR 1857. Halesowen, Worcester,
NERI BISSELL.
Christening, 01 NOV 1858. Halesowen, Worcester,
THOMAS BISSELL,
Christening, 19 APR 1865. Halesowen, Worcester,
NERIA BISSELL.
Christening, 08 APR 1874. Halesowen, Worcester,
Parents:
NERIA BISSELL.
JEMIMA.
All Extracted.
Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:51 am
by Northern Lass
Thanks guys will get this all on connections.....soon...
yes well done Pete and Carol mystery solved

Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:26 am
by Jimmy
Extracted.
NEIRI BISSEL.
Christening, 08 MAY 1825, Cradley, Worcester,
Parents:
WILLIAM BISSEL.
SARAH.
Extracted.
NERI BISSELL.
JEMIMAH WORTON.
Marriage, 13 SEP 1846. Clent, Worcester,