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Re: Ann Unknown- who is she ?

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I'm not sure, NL, but I think you just said that Ann PARKES who married William BAKER is her own sister Ann PARKES, who married first William TILLEY anf then her own brother, James PARKES. ... and thus is simultaneously her daughter, Selina's mother, mother-in-law and aunt. Or am I just confused by too many Ann Parkes? :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ann Unknown- who is she ?

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:lol: :roll:

No! did I??? Ok meant this .....

William Baker married Ann Parkes
Ann Parkes had a brother called James Parkes
James Parkes married Ann Tilley( that is her married name - as she married a William Tilley)

On the 1851 James Parkes is next door to Richard Baker.

So come on Di or anyone have a look at it for me...what do you think!

I think that is how Selina and Richard met.
Ann Tilley became his auntie.

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Re: Ann Unknown- who is she ?

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I looked up the Marriage of William Baker and Ann Parkes 11.10.1830 Halesowen

William Baker of the Parish of Harborne in the County of Staffs Bach and Ann Parkes otp spinster. Witnesses were Thomas Parkes and Jane Baker. Married by License. The Marriage Allegation Bond can be looked up for further information, will have father's names, addresses and occupations on it etc. HTH from linell.
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Thanks Linell

suppose we need to tie Thomas parkes in as a brother somehow to Ann and hopefully James.
That bond would be at Worcs I presume. :cry:

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Hi NL, I would think the Bond is at Sandwell or even Birmingham?? Best Wishes from linell.
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linell wrote:Hi NL, I would think the Bond is at Sandwell or even Birmingham?? Best Wishes from linell.


Hi asked at Dudley they said it would be at Worcs.
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Re: Ann Unknown- who is she ?

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Have done the look up on that 1839 marriage...see what you all make of this...

30 Dec 1839 St Thomas Dudley

-James Parkes - of full age- widower- labourer- windmill end-Parish of Dudley-William Parkes( deceased) Innkeeper
-Ann Tilley- of full age- widow- Windmill end- Thomas Harvey - deceased- bricklayer
banns
X of both
Wit- Thomas Dillow? and X Elizabeth Pitaway

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nb Joseph Tilley was a Publican too!

there is a William and Phoebe having kids got the names William, Richard, James and Ann Rowley regis area on IGI
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Re: Ann Unknown- who is she ?

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This is how I've made sense of it for myself ...

Richard PARKES & Ann Unknown had children James and Ann.
Ann married William BAKER, & they had Richard.

Joseph TILLY & Ann Unknown had children William and Richard.
William TILLEY married Ann HARVEY (daughter of Thomas), they had children Selina, Mary & Hannah.

William TILLEY died 1838.

In 1839 there are 2 marriages:
1. James PARKES married Ann Tilley (Nee HARVEY) the widow of William TILLEY.

2. Selina TILLEY married Richard BAKER, the son of her mother's new sister-in-law, Ann BAKER (nee PARKES).

We have identified 2 different Ann UNKNOWNs (Ann PARKES & Ann HARVEY) and gained 2 more: Ann married to Joseph TILLEY, & Ann married to Richard PARKES !

TOO many Anns & Richards for my brain to cope with!!! :shock: :?
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Re: Ann Unknown- who is she ?

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nearly Selina and Richard marry 1847...

but yes....that is it!

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Re: Ann Unknown- who is she ?

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dianel wrote:William TILLEY married Ann HARVEY (daughter of Thomas), they had children Selina, Mary & Hannah.

William TILLEY died 1838.



Just want to add that this entry is

7th Aug 1838 William Tilley Spring House 35 Cold in the RR parish records so his age seems right.
All looking good :-)
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Rite it is going on the tree!

thanks guys!
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Re: Ann Unknown- who is she ?

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I have put most of this on Connections with accompanying notes.
I am still not convinced that James and Ann Parkes are bro and sister but they are certainly connected....so notes have gone on until otherwise informed.
Too many loose ends on this lot!
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =600525056

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