William Haynes

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:37 pm

1881.
William HAYNES Head M Male 47 Brockmoor, Stafford, England Iron Works Labourer
Sarrah HAYNES Wife M Female 43 Church Eaton
Henery HAYNES Son U Male 19 Netherton, Worcester, England Iron Works Labourer
Matilda HAYNES Daur U Female 17 Netherton, Worcester, England Domestic Servt
Joab HAYNES Son U Male 16 Netherton, Worcester, England Labourer Colliery
Amelia FOREST Lodger M Male 23 Quarry Bank Chain Maker
Amelia FOREST Lodgers Wife M Female 24 Croshall, Stafford, England

High St.
Kingswinford, Stafford.

1871. 9 Gouth St, Wolverhampton.
Wm Glover Haimes 38. Forge lab. Breerley Hill.
Sarah Glover Haimes 34. Codsall.
Arnetta Glover Haimes 16. Codsall.
Wm Glover Haimes 13. Brockmore.
Hy Glover Haimes 11. Greatbridge.
Matilda Glover Haimes 8. Wolverhampton.
Job Glover Haimes 6. Wolverhampton.
Jno Glover Haimes 9 months. Wolverhampton.

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:58 pm

West Midlands Marriage 1887.
SMITH Eli, HAINES Matilda, Dudley, St Andrew. Dudley Register Office, 205/009/25.

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:37 pm

Births Jun 1863.
HAINES Matilda Glover. Wolverhampton. 6b. 497.

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:52 pm

rite come on then Jimmy in a nutshell
which census are the correct ones

I think we have them covered with the 1901 one with that Matilda smith

let's sort this

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:07 pm

I have spent about 2 hours on this lot today, I have no idea.

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:16 pm

Jimmy wrote:West Midlands Marriage 1887.
SMITH Eli, HAINES Matilda, Dudley, St Andrew. Dudley Register Office, 205/009/25.

I think we need this marriage details.

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:57 am

Jimmy wrote:1881.
William HAYNES Head M Male 47 Brockmoor, Stafford, England Iron Works Labourer
Sarrah HAYNES Wife M Female 43 Church Eaton
Henery HAYNES Son U Male 19 Netherton, Worcester, England Iron Works Labourer
Matilda HAYNES Daur U Female 17 Netherton, Worcester, England Domestic Servt
Joab HAYNES Son U Male 16 Netherton, Worcester, England Labourer Colliery
Amelia FOREST Lodger M Male 23 Quarry Bank Chain Maker
Amelia FOREST Lodgers Wife M Female 24 Croshall, Stafford, England

High St.
Kingswinford, Stafford.

1871. 9 Gouth St, Wolverhampton.
Wm Glover Haimes. 38. Forge lab. Breerley Hill.
Sarah Glover Haimes. 34. Codsall.
Arnetta Glover Haimes. 16. Codsall.
Wm Glover Haimes. 13. Brockmore.
Hy Glover Haimes. 11. Greatbridge.
Matilda Glover Haimes. 8. Wolverhampton.
Job Glover Haimes. 6. Wolverhampton.
Jno Glover Haimes. 9 months. Wolverhampton.

This the only one I can see where you have a father William a son William and a Matilda.

And I think Arnetta in 1871. (could be Amelia on image) could be Amelia in 1881.

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:16 am

Jimmy wrote:
Jimmy wrote:1881.
William HAYNES Head M Male 47 Brockmoor, Stafford, England Iron Works Labourer
Sarrah HAYNES Wife M Female 43 Church Eaton
Henery HAYNES Son U Male 19 Netherton, Worcester, England Iron Works Labourer
Matilda HAYNES Daur U Female 17 Netherton, Worcester, England Domestic Servt
Joab HAYNES Son U Male 16 Netherton, Worcester, England Labourer Colliery
Amelia FOREST Lodger M Male 23 Quarry Bank Chain Maker
Amelia FOREST Lodgers Wife M Female 24 Croshall, Stafford, England

High St.
Kingswinford, Stafford.

This name must be wrong in 1881.

1891. High St, Kingswinford.
John Forrest 32. Chainmaker. Quarry Bank.
Amelia Forrest 34. Wolverhampton.
Lucy Hill 20. Boarder.
Lydia Parry 86. Boarder.

House before.
Henry Haynes 28. Carter. Dudley. Port Gore.?
Annie Haynes 26. Lye.
William Henry Haynes 7. Dudley Port.
Sarah Jane Haynes 4. Dudley Port.
Annie Ely Haynes 2. Cradley Loye.

West Midlands Marriage 1880.
FOREST John, HAINES Amelia, Quarry Bank, Christ Church Dudley Register Office. 016/001/459.

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:50 am

Jimmy wrote:1871. 9 Gouth St, Wolverhampton.
Wm Glover Haimes 38. Forge lab. Breerley Hill.
Sarah Glover Haimes 34. Codsall.
Arnetta Glover Haimes 16. Codsall.
Wm Glover Haimes 13. Brockmore.
Hy Glover Haimes 11. Greatbridge.
Matilda Glover Haimes 8. Wolverhampton.
Job Glover Haimes 6. Wolverhampton.
Jno Glover Haimes 9 months. Wolverhampton.

Can any one see this lot in 1861.

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:50 am

Morning Jimmy! :grin:

Ok RockyFowler has done this look up!!

25 Dec 1887 St Andrews Dudley
Eli Smith 25 B chain Maker New Town Father David Smith Chain Maker
Matilda Haines 20 S New Town Father William Haines Wagoner
Wit; Alfred Smith Eliza Oakley

I think all that lot are the correct census

I was going to start adding it let me pull all the census in one thread

min

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:54 am

This is William Junior born around 1857

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =673781290

1881 Reddall Hill Road, Rowley Regis
William Haines, head, 24, Carter, Brockmoor
Martha, 25, Nailer
Martha, daur, 2,
William, son, 11 months
All others born Rowley Regis

1891 189 Halesowen Road Rowley Regis
William Haynes h m 34 labourer in chainworks
Martha Haynes wife 35 nailer
Alice Maud Haynes dau single 7 scholar
Job Haynes son 6 scholar
Amelia Haynes dau 4 scholar
William Payne father in law m 56 bootmaker
Sarah Payne mother in law m 57
all born Rowley Regis

With father......

1901 Bannister St Rowley Regis,
William Haynes h wid 64 Carter coal b Cradley Heath
William Haynes son 40 wid Coal miner below ground Born Cradley Heath
Alice Haynes G.dau 17 chainmaker b Old Hill
Job Haynes G.son 15 ??? striker b Old Hill
Matilda Smith dau? 30 b Cradley Heath
Edward Willetts boarder wid 44
Felix Willetts boarder 18
Sarah Willetts boarder 14
Beatrice Willetts boarder 10
All others born Cradley Heath

1911 Census 37 Mace Street Old Hill Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
William Haynes Head 50 Coal Miner born Brockmore Near Brierley Hill Staffs.
Sarah Ann Haynes wife 49 born Primrose Hill Worcs.
Sarah Ann Tombes dau 19 Employed in Nut & Bolt Works born Old Hioll Staffs.
William Walter Green grd.son 4 born Quarry Bank Staffs.
married 9 years no children

So that is William Jnr do we agree?

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:07 am

Looks good to me.

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:29 am

Ok I agree that is him too
the Walter Green grandson links him to Alice Maud who marries a green

so will now put a post on re all census for Wm snr min......

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:34 am

1871. 9 Gouth St, Wolverhampton.
Wm Glover Haimes 38. Forge lab. Brierley Hill.
Sarah Glover Haimes 34. Codsall.
Amelia Glover Haimes 16. Codsall.
Wm Glover Haimes 13. Brockmore.
Hy Glover Haimes 11. Greatbridge.
Matilda Glover Haimes 8. Wolverhampton.
Job Glover Haimes 6. Wolverhampton.
Jno Glover Haimes 9 months. Wolverhampton

1881. High St.Kingswinford, Stafford.
William HAYNES Head M Male 47 Brockmoor, Stafford, England Iron Works Labourer
Sarrah HAYNES Wife M Female 43 Church Eaton
Henery HAYNES Son U Male 19 Netherton, Worcester, England Iron Works Labourer
Matilda HAYNES Daur U Female 17 Netherton, Worcester, England Domestic Servt
Joab HAYNES Son U Male 16 Netherton, Worcester, England Labourer Colliery
Andrew??? FOREST Lodger M Male 23 Quarry Bank Chain Maker
Amelia FOREST Lodgers Wife M Female 24 Codsall, Stafford, England

1891 34 New Town Lane Rowley Regis
William Haynes 50 h wid General Labourer b Dudley
Eli Haynes 28 son in law.....Chainmaker this should say Smith b RR
Matilda Haynes 24 dau b Wolverhampton

1901 Bannister St Rowley Regis,
William Haynes h wid 64 Carter coal b Cradley Heath
William Haynes son 40 wid Coal miner below ground Born Cradley Heath
Alice Haynes G.dau 17 chainmaker b Old Hill
Job Haynes G.son 15 ??? striker b Old Hill
Matilda Smith dau? 30 b Cradley Heath
Edward Willetts boarder wid 44
Felix Willetts boarder 18
Sarah Willetts boarder 14
Beatrice Willetts boarder 10
All others born Cradley Heath

Is that our William snr?

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:46 am

I know the ages are a little out but I think that is our Wm Snr

that Matilda links the 1901 to the 1891 as she is a Smith dau ....and there is that marriage to Eli Smith
then
in 1891 she is with Eli hubby and father ...ok wrong surname...but it is her I think

1881 fits for the names used by Wm jnr for kids names

1871 I think that is our Wm puts Brockmore

wot you think

Jimmy!

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