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Oh no!

What I do know now is that Alfred and Martha for some reason were living apart in 1901....

1901: 2 bk of 82 Icknield Square, Ladywood, Birmingham
Walter Rogers 27 Head M Striker Blacks General Birmingham
Rebecca Rogers 26 Wife Birmingham
Sarah Rogers 2 Dau Birmingham
Alfred Lee 56 Boarder M General Lab Leicestershire N/K

1901: 34 Montague Street, Duddeston, Aston
Robert Hunter 75 Head Widr Whitesmith Birmingham
Martha Lee 53 Boarder M Charwoman Birmingham


He was living with his daughter

Marriages Mar 1895
Hawkeswood Thomas Birmingham 6d 90
Lee Rebecca Birmingham 6d 90
Rogers Walter Birmingham 6d 90
Wall Sarah Jane Birmingham 6d 90

mallosa wrote:Well I got my cerificates through

Birth Cert says: Registration District: Aston in the district of Deritend, County Warwickshire
Birth: 22nd Nov 1866
Thomas William - boy - Father: Blank - Mother: Martha Wilson of 13 Court, Great Barr Street, Aston

mallosa wrote:What I do know now is that Alfred and Martha for some reason were living apart in 1901....

1901: 34 Montague Street, Duddeston, Aston
Robert Hunter 75 Head Widr Whitesmith Birmingham
Martha Lee 53 Boarder M Charwoman Birmingham

I've done a search to see who this Robert Hunter is and guess what.....In 1871 he is living with his wife Sarah at No 3, 13 Court, Great Barr Street, Aston

Is this her?

1861: Back House No 3, Great Barr Street, Aston, Warwickshire
Robert Hunter 34 Head M Fire Iron Maker
Sarah Hunter 33 Wife St Luke, London
Marth Hunter 13 Dau Steel Ribb Maker
Eliza Hunter 11 Dau Nurse?
Thomas Hunter 8 Son Brass Hinge Filer
Hannah Hunter 5 Dau
Robert Hunter 3 Son
Sarah Hunter 1 Dau
(others born Birmingham)

Marriages Jun 1849

Hunter Robert Birmingham 16 385
Johnson Philip Birmingham 16 385
Johnson Phillip Birmingham 16 385
Manwaring William Birmingham 16 385
Raby Amelia Birmingham 16 385
Smith Caroline Birmingham 16 385
Southall Elizabeth Birmingham 16 385
Taylor Samuel Birmingham 16 385
Wilson Sarah Birmingham 16 385

Martha Lee (nee Wilson) is living with her stepfather Robert Hunter in 1901

We're here again - It looks like Sarah Wilson gave birth to Martha abt 1847 and married Robert Hunter in 1849

I'll now look for them in 1851.......

Does this put the cat among the pigeons?

1851 Lilly Green, Aston, Hamlet Of Deritend, Birmingham
HINTER, Ann Head Widow F 41 1810 Char Woman Birmingham Warwickshire

mallosa wrote:HINTER, Robert Son Married M 25 1826 Whitesmith Birmingham Warwickshire

HINTER, Robert Son Married M 25 1826 Whitesmith Birmingham Warwickshire
HINTER, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 23 1828 Button Finisher Birmingham Warwickshire
HINTER, Charles Son Unmarried M 21 1830 Ware House Man Birmingham Warwickshire
BATES, Flory Lodger Unmarried F 20 1831 Button Finisher Birmingham Warwickshire
CLARKE, Susannah Visitor Unmarried F 35 1816 Brewer Birmingham Warwickshire
HINTER, Martha Daughter In Law Married F 23 1828 Button Finisher Birmingham Warwickshire
HINTER, Eliza Daughter Unmarried F 3 1848 Birmingham Warwickshire

Maths girl wrote:Does this put the cat among the pigeons?

1851 Lilly Green, Aston, Hamlet Of Deritend, Birmingham
HINTER, Ann Head Widow F 41 1810 Char Woman Birmingham Warwickshire

mallosa wrote:HINTER, Robert Son Married M 25 1826 Whitesmith Birmingham Warwickshire

HINTER, Robert Son Married M 25 1826 Whitesmith Birmingham Warwickshire
HINTER, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 23 1828 Button Finisher Birmingham Warwickshire
HINTER, Charles Son Unmarried M 21 1830 Ware House Man Birmingham Warwickshire
BATES, Flory Lodger Unmarried F 20 1831 Button Finisher Birmingham Warwickshire
CLARKE, Susannah Visitor Unmarried F 35 1816 Brewer Birmingham Warwickshire
HINTER, Martha Daughter In Law Married F 23 1828 Button Finisher Birmingham Warwickshire
HINTER, Eliza Daughter Unmarried F 3 1848 Birmingham Warwickshire

Don't quite know what happened here Mally but we seem to be looking in the same place!

This doesn't help -- two possible births!
Martha Wilson 1847 Jul-Aug-Sep Warwickshire, West Midlands
Martha Wilson 1848 Jan-Feb-Mar Warwickshire

Maths girl wrote:Does this put the cat among the pigeons?

1851 Lilly Green, Aston, Hamlet Of Deritend, Birmingham
HINTER, Ann Head Widow F 41 1810 Char Woman Birmingham Warwickshire

mallosa wrote:HINTER, Robert Son Married M 25 1826 Whitesmith Birmingham Warwickshire

HINTER, Robert Son Married M 25 1826 Whitesmith Birmingham Warwickshire
HINTER, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 23 1828 Button Finisher Birmingham Warwickshire
HINTER, Charles Son Unmarried M 21 1830 Ware House Man Birmingham Warwickshire
BATES, Flory Lodger Unmarried F 20 1831 Button Finisher Birmingham Warwickshire
CLARKE, Susannah Visitor Unmarried F 35 1816 Brewer Birmingham Warwickshire
HINTER, Martha Daughter In Law Married F 23 1828 Button Finisher Birmingham Warwickshire
HINTER, Eliza Daughter Unmarried F 3 1848 Birmingham Warwickshire

It sure does MG, I'm lost now

I seem to remember that Litley Green, later changed to Ladywood

Possible -- in an area of whitesmiths

1841 Flood Gate Street, St Martin, Birmingham
HALL, George M 40 1801 Warwickshire Brass carterJ
HALL, Thomas M 15 1826 Warwickshire
HUNTER, An F 40 1801 Warwickshire
HUNTER, William M 15 1826 Warwickshire
HUNTER, Robert M 15 1826 Warwickshire
HUNTER, Cristopher M 13 1828 Warwickshire
KENNY, Isabela F 55 1786 Ireland

to fill in a gap

1871 Barr Street Court, Great, Aston, Birmingham Fire iron maker
HUNTER, Robert Head M 45 1826 Warwickshire
HUNTER, Sarah Wife F 44 1827 Middlesex
HUNTER, Hannah Daughter F 16 1855 Warwickshire
HUNTER, Robert Son M 14 1857 Warwickshire
HUNTER, Sarah Daughter F 12 1859 Warwickshire
HUNTER, Mary Daughter F 10 1861 Warwickshire
HUNTER, Kate Daughter F 5 1866 Warwickshire
HUNTER, Alice Daughter F 2 1869 Warwickshire

1881 20, Garrison St, Aston
HUNTER, Robert Head Married M 55 1826 Whitesmith Bham Warwickshire
HUNTER, Sarah Wife Married F 53 1828 Bham Warwickshire
HUNTER, Robert Son Single M 23 1858 Brass Dresser Bham Warwickshire
HUNTER, Sarah Daughter Single F 21 1860 Mounter China Wks Bham Warwickshire
HUNTER, Marah Daughter Single F 19 1862 Umbrella Stamper Bham Warwickshire
HUNTER, Kate Daughter Single F 14 1867 Mounter China Wks Bham Warwickshire
HUNTER, Alice Daughter Single F 11 1870 Scholar Bham Warwickshire
HUNTER, John Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar Bham Warwickshire
DANKS, John Boarder Head Married M 24 1857 Brickmaker Stafford
DANKS, Ann Wife Married F 26 1855 Bham Warwickshire
DANKS, Emily Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar Bham Warwickshire
DANKS, Eliza Daughter Single F 2 1879 Bham Warwickshire
DANKS, Flora Daughter Single F 1 1880 Bham Warwickshire

1891 34, Montague Street, Aston, Birmingham
HUNTER, Robert Head Married M 64 1827 Whitesmith Birmingham Warwickshire
HUNTER, Sarah Wife Married F 63 1828 London
THORN, Robert Son In Law M 32 1859 Laborer Tube Drawer Birmingham Warwickshire
THORN, Mary Daughter F 29 1862 Birmingham Warwickshire
THORN, Kate Granddaughter F 3 1888 Birmingham Warwickshire
THORN, Alice Granddaughter F 1 (18M) 1890 Birmingham Warwickshire
HUNTER, Tom Son M 19 1872 Laborer Tube Drawer Birmingham Warwickshire

I have managed to put some info on BCC but not all yet - ...here

Great Barr St
Montague Street
Fazeley Street
Floodgate Street
Garrison Street are all next to each other

still around 1911

1911 1 Melbourne Place Trevor St Birmingham
HUNTER, John Head Married M 39 1872 Stoker Gas Works Birmingham
HUNTER, Susannah Wife Married F 29 1882 Birmingham
HUNTER, Elsie Daughter F 6 1905 Birmingham
HUNTER, Nellie Daughter F 4 1907 Birmingham
HUNTER, Willy Daughter F 2 1909 Birmingham
HUNTER, Joseph Bernard Son M 0 (10 MONTHS) 1911 Birmingham
HUNTER, Robert Father Widower M 86 1825 White Smith Birmingham

Thanks for all that MG, as I've said on another post, I'm away for the weekend so I'll study it when I get back

mallosa wrote:What I do know now is that Alfred and Martha for some reason were living apart in 1901....

1901: 2 bk of 82 Icknield Square, Ladywood, Birmingham
Walter Rogers 27 Head M Striker Blacks General Birmingham
Rebecca Rogers 26 Wife Birmingham
Sarah Rogers 2 Dau Birmingham
Alfred Lee 56 Boarder M General Lab Leicestershire N/K

1901: 34 Montague Street, Duddeston, Aston
Robert Hunter 75 Head Widr Whitesmith Birmingham
Martha Lee 53 Boarder M Charwoman Birmingham

Can anyone see either or both in 1911 please?