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dianel wrote:

Northern Lass wrote:1851 Rowley Regis,Reddal Hill
Sch no 129,Five Ways
Emmanuel Woodhouse,head,m,38,chain maker,Staffs,Rowley Regis
Ann Woodhouse,wife,m,29,at home,Staffs, Rowley Regis
Mary Woodhouse,dau,u,4, at home,Staffs,Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Woodhouse,dau,3, at home,Staffs,Rowley Regis
Joseph Woodhouse,son,1, at home, Staffs,Rowley Regis
Eli Willetts,lodger,u,28, chain maker,Staffs,Rowley Regis
Samuel Rose,lodger,u,22, chain maker,Worcester,Dudley

Looking at my notes and the image again, I think that this census should read:

1851 Census
At Four Ways, Rowley Regis
Emanuel Woodhouse Head 30 Chain Maker b. Rowley Regis
Ann Woodhouse Wife 29 b. Rowley Regis
Mary Woodhouse Daur 4 b. Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Woodhouse Daur 3 b. Rowley Regis
Joseph Woodhouse Son 1 b. Rowley Regis
Eli Willetts Lodger 28 b. Rowley Regis
Samuel Rose Lodger 22 b, Worcester, Dudley
Joseph Willetts Lodger 12 b. Rowley Regis (on next page)

Emanuel appears to be the son of Benjamin Woodhouse and Mary Brownhill who married 29 Oct 1820 at Halesowen.

Emanuel was married to Ann Willetts on 27 Oct 1845 at St. Thomas, Dudley (Wheee ... Woodhouses and Willetts in one thread!!! )
Eli Willetts is Ann's brother.

But your Ann is too old to be the daughter of Benjamin Woodhouse & Mary Brownhill.
She is more contemporary with this Benjamin.

Emanuel appears to be the son of Benjamin Woodhouse and Mary Brownhill who married 29 Oct 1820 at Halesowen.
Witnesses
Benjn Taylor & Maria Woodhouse

Diane wrote:- Emanuel appears to be the son of Benjamin Woodhouse and Mary Brownhill who married 29 Oct 1820 at Halesowen.
Witnesses
Benjn Taylor & Maria Woodhouse

William Rose Married Ann Woodhouse Halesowen 1825 Witness Benjamin Woodhouse. This all fits together somehow

Same location same names

Baptisms
8 Jun 1785 Elizabeth, d of Benn & Mary Woodhouse
30 Dec 1787 William, s of Benn & Mary Woodhouse
9 Jan 1791 Hannah, d of Benn & Mary Woodhouse
25 Aug 1793 Mary, d of Benjn & Mary Woodhouse
17 Apr 1796 Ann, d of Benjamin & Mary Woodhouse
4 Nov 1798 John, s of Benjamin & Mary Woodhouse
29 Mar 1801 (Blank), s of Benjn & Mary Woodhouse
22 Jan 1804 Susa., d of Ben & Mary Woodhouse
16 Feb 1806 Benjn, s of Benjn & Mary Woodhouse

I wonder if Ann Woodhouse was Susanna, would make her about 20 when she Married in 1825, which is a good average

linell wrote:Diane wrote:- Emanuel appears to be the son of Benjamin Woodhouse and Mary Brownhill who married 29 Oct 1820 at Halesowen.
Witnesses
Benjn Taylor & Maria Woodhouse

William Rose Married Ann Woodhouse Halesowen 1825 Witness Benjamin Woodhouse. This all fits together somehow

Same location same names

So why does ours have to be a Benjamin as father
if we ignore that bapt for ann

wit at marriage of our Ann Woodhouse and William Rose is a Benjamin Rose

Samuel is living with Emmanuel Rose could that be his cousin

Benjamin and Ann sibs?

Assumptions with no proof of course it's the Woodhouses

I think there were def 2 Ann's - both spinisters on their respective marriage records

This Ann, I reckon is a red herring, tho can't place her
1st Ann
married John Royall 1822
poss death
1840
ROYALL Ann W Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/004/380

I believe Ann (who marries William Rose) is the daug of Benjamin & Mary (Thompson), 17 Apr 1796 Ann, d of Benjamin & Mary Woodhouse

Ann marries William Rose 1825
Question - is witness Benjamin Woodhouse her father?

Bro's (Anns Uncle) Joseph (married Mary Foxall) and Benjamin (Ann's father) presumably very close

we have son of Joseph & Mary (Foxall) John (I think cousin to Ann) living in the same household as Samuel Rose

Northern Lass wrote:Sarah Woodhouse married Elijah Jones
and there is a John Woodhouse too

1841 Census,( HO107/997/5-29 Cradley Heath)
Joseph Troman,25,nailor,y
Sarah ditto,25,y
Thomas ditto,2,y
Elijah Jones,50,publican,y
Sarah ditto,45,y Born 1792-1796 (ages over 15 rounded down to nearest 5 in 1841 census)
Samuel ditto,20,chain maker,y
Joseph ditto,20,y
-Samuel Rose,12,n
John Woodhouse,55,nailor,n Born 1782-1786 (ages over 15 rounded down to nearest 5 )
Ann Stafford,20,F S,y
Joseph ditto,6m,y

1851
Four ways, Rowley
Richard Parkes 58 - Nailer
Mary Parkes 42 - Nailer (nee Jones)
Phebe Parkes 18 - Dressmaker
Sarah Parkes 16 - Dressmaker
Joseph Parkes 10 - Chainmaker
Thomas Parkes 7
Emma Parkes 4
Elijah Jones 61 - Stepfather - Widow - Chainmaker
John Woodhouse 68 - Bach - Uncle - Nailer
all b Rowley

next door
Joseph Tromans & Sarah

1861
Joseph Woodhouse 65 - Widow - Chainmaker
John Woodhouse 9 - grandson
John Woodhouse 77 - bro - Nailer - b Cradley
others b Rowley

Ann Stafford who ever she is
1846
STAFFORD Ann BILLINGHAM Henry Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/007/417

I agree
I think we should connect up Ann Woodhouse with a note


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St John the Baptist,Halesowen
1st May 1825
William Rose otp bach and Ann Woodhouse otp spin by GS (Curate)
William X Rose and Ann X Woodhouse
Wit: Benj. Woodhouse and George G Fiddian

ANN WOODHOUSE.
Christening, 17 APR 1796. Rowley Regis, Stafford.
Parents:
BENJAMIN WOODHOUSE.
MARY.



Sarah b1791 bpt 10 Jul 1791 Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley
this needs the actual image looked at will add it to look ups
Parents....Joseph married to Molly (IGI) (and it is Molly on LDS site and on the Cradley fiche)

Joseph Woodhouse bpt 5 Jul 1796 Park Lane Presbyterian,Cradley,Worcs...Parents Joseph and Mary

no bapt for John but we know these 3 latter ones are sibs

NL
can you post the entry with Molly

Hi NL, I checked the Park Lane Baps for Sarah 1791 and Joseph 1796. Joseph's said 'son of Joseph and Mary from Newton.' I think that is where you need to concentrate on the Newtown Woodhouses. Molly was probably a nick name, what she was known as I definitely think the Witness Benjamin Woodhouse at the Marriage of Ann Woodhouse and William Rose was Ann's father. I have found a lot of Father's were Witnesses in that time frame. Keep plugging away, Lin.

FarSide wrote:NL
can you post the entry with Molly

Sarah b1791 bpt 10 Jul 1791 Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley

While we are on Woodhouses, after spending hours on this line, I believe these are one in the same... my Joshua
could you join up
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =748264179
to
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=10505400

Ok done that
if you connect can you add your name FS
I have added the

Connects to:-

I think I am done on this Ann Woodhouse now
I have connected her
not added all the notes I have on her but put a note on re further notes available

OK, so this Ann Woodhouse is my 5th cousin 6 times removed then, and connects to Rob.

dianel wrote:OK, so this Ann Woodhouse is my 5th cousin 6 times removed then, and connects to Rob.

I have connected up based on all that has gone before
but.....I still would like more evidence.
I have my head on the block on this one and have added notes....