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rite we are off the starting blocks

I need the birth place of James and Emma and that marriage to ensure that the parents are
John and George

so need em on census in 1881 pls
and that marriage if you dont have it can be looked up
you would need to add to look ups

dive in anyone and add what you think
brain had it

Here is the link
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =411201979

can we work back and see if we can get to the James Rollinson and Jane Holmes

I will look that marriage up if you aint got it Kay

ok come on guys census...let's go

It really boils down to what is fact on certificates. You must work back from the latest record you have, back them up by looking at records or certificates.
Do you have transcripts from Scotland or have you seen images?
Do you have census details in Scotland?
Can we go by the latest information and go back? It would be much easier and also to add to BCC?
Jo

I think Kay has the birth cert for James
so if that is mother on that birth cert emma Ball
and father James Rollinson
then that 1873 fits

so I can look that up unless Kay has it
but I jsut thought ahead of that

anything on the 1881 census for these 2
and the other census
might have a clue with parents

but as you say Jo this is why certifs and verifying are imp

I havent found anything on census NL
I'd first like to know the latest census? Say 1911 or 1901?
That would be a good start?
Jo
Oops just changed that! must have kept my finger on 1 too long!

May be, if you have it Kay, you could put on a more recent information you have. Like who James, g father married, where he was living etc? Then we can go from there? All the variations of Rollinsons let alone Robinsons! Just my thoughts any how.
Jo

I see what you mean about establishing John as father of James. They lived together in Scotland. Will that do?

1871 census Scotland 610/00 002/00 005
Kiln Holm Place (Old Cumnock Ayrshire)
John ROLIESON Head Mar M 50 Iron Miner England
Jane wife M 50
Manuel son unM 28 Iron Miner England
James son unM 20 Iron Miner England
Joseph Hunt boarder unM 20 Iron Miner England

and in Census 1881 (610/00 005/00 003)
8 Glengyron Row (Old Cumnock)
James ROLISON Head Mar 29 Coal Miner England
Emma Wife Mar 25
Alice Dau Unm 6
Jessie Dau Unm 3
Delilah Dau Unm 3mo Ayrshire Old Cumnock
John Father Mar 64 Coal Miner England
Jane Mother Mar 63
Mathew Brother Mar (Age undecipherable as crossed through) Coal Miner England

Is them Kay?
1891 Census
13 Right Welsh Street, Old Monkland, Lanarkshire
James Robertson 38, Coal Miner, England
Emma, 35, wife, England
Alice, 16, daur, England
Jessie, 13, daur, England
Delita, 11, daur, Old Cumnock, Ayrshire
James, 8, son England
Rachael, 4, daur, England


1881 Census
8, Glengiron Row, Old Cumnock
James Robison, 25, head, Coal miner, England
Emma, 25, wife, England
Alice, 6, daur, England
Jessie, 3, England
Dalilah, 8 months, daur, Cumnock
John, 64, father, Coal Miner, England
Jane, 63, mother, England
Matthew, 26, brother, Coal Miner, England

Sorry hadnt seen your post Kaye.
Jo

In 1891 in Lanarkshire - they are ROBERTSON & RAWLINSON!!!

1891 Census
Census 1891 652/03 003/03 012

13 Welsh Row
ROBERTSON, James Head M 38 Coal miner England
Emma Wife M 38 England
Alice dau Unm 16 Domestic servant England
Jessie dau unm 13 Scholar England
Delila dau unm11 Scholar Ayrshire, Old Cumncok
James 8 son unm Scholar England
Rachael 4 dau unm England
on previous page
12 Welsh Row , Calderbank
Jane RAWLINSON Head, 69 widow, England
Mathew son Mar 43 coal miner England

Well done Jo!
It took me weeks of searching to find them what with all the variations of spaelling. I have them on 1901 as well and I have census information for Ball as well!

1901 Census
Jacks Land, Holytown
Jas Rollinson, 49, England
Emma, wife, 46, England
Jas, 17, son, England
Clifford, 6, son, Calderbank
Robert Davidson, 3, grand son, Calderbank

1901 Census
54, Stone Row, Old Monkland
Angus Davidson, 26, head, Coal Miner, Calderbank, Lanarkshire
Alice, 27, wife, England
Emma, 2, daur, Calderbank
James, 3 months, son, Calderbank
Rachel Rollanson, 15, Sister, England

I havent seen the actual census, its such transcriptions of them.
The transcriptions seem to be all over the place!
Jo

Ooh that's interesting! Where are you finding the transcriptions? I am working from the scans!

Ancestry have transcriptions of the census, not the actual scans.
Jo