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Hi
Found another William Wilson in the 1911 - married 3 years - but will keep looking. He's in the 'Brass' business though.
Not much luck so far on the Lee/Lane connection
By the way - this foreverablade is a bloke!

1911 WILSON, William
Bk 85 Northwood St., Birmingham, Warwickshire
WILSON, William - Head of Family - Married 3 years - Male Aged 27 - Born 1884 Birmingham - Brass Carter
WILSON, Catherine Wife - Married - Female 25 - Born 1886 Birmingham
WILSON, Albert Single Male - 2years old - Born 1909 Birmingham
WILSON, William Single Male - 3 months old - Born 1911 Birmingham

Registration District: Birmingham St George


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Hi Folks,

I've had no more luck than anyone else in finding them on them 1911. Mallosa, you've undoubtably done the BMD route for marriages and deaths, but I did have a quick look and couldn't see anything obvious. No Lucy Lanes or Wilsons marrying Thomas Lees. No Thomas Wilsons dying of the age that fits. Big mystery.

Cid

Yes cid, I have and it certainly is a mystery! I wonder if I'll ever solve it Not giving up though....think I'll start a new thread for Lucy and see if anything comes from that.

Thanks for looking anyway

foreverablade wrote:Hi
Found another William Wilson in the 1911 - married 3 years - but will keep looking. He's in the 'Brass' business though.
Not much luck so far on the Lee/Lane connection
By the way - this foreverablade is a bloke!

1911 WILSON, William
Bk 85 Northwood St., Birmingham, Warwickshire
WILSON, William - Head of Family - Married 3 years - Male Aged 27 - Born 1884 Birmingham - Brass Carter
WILSON, Catherine Wife - Married - Female 25 - Born 1886 Birmingham
WILSON, Albert Single Male - 2years old - Born 1909 Birmingham
WILSON, William Single Male - 3 months old - Born 1911 Birmingham

Registration District: Birmingham St George


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Thanks Foreverblade, I'll keep that one in mind though, cos you never know

Now we know that you're a fella, we won't make that mistake again, will we Peterd?

mallosa wrote:

foreverablade wrote:Hi
Found another William Wilson in the 1911 - married 3 years - but will keep looking. He's in the 'Brass' business though.
Not much luck so far on the Lee/Lane connection
By the way - this foreverablade is a bloke!

1911 WILSON, William
Bk 85 Northwood St., Birmingham, Warwickshire
WILSON, William - Head of Family - Married 3 years - Male Aged 27 - Born 1884 Birmingham - Brass Carter
WILSON, Catherine Wife - Married - Female 25 - Born 1886 Birmingham
WILSON, Albert Single Male - 2years old - Born 1909 Birmingham
WILSON, William Single Male - 3 months old - Born 1911 Birmingham

Registration District: Birmingham St George


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Thanks Foreverblade, I'll keep that one in mind though, cos you never know

Now we know that you're a fella, we won't make that mistake again, will we Peterd?

well im not promising out mally aint that a blokes name

mallosa wrote:This is the one I keep looking at...

1891:Leech Street, Ladywood (not far from Icknield Square where William was born)
(all born Birmingham)
Alfred Lee 45 Head Tube Maker
Martha Lee 43 Wife
Sarah Lee 18 Dau Tube Charger
Rebecca Lee 16 Dau Tube Charger
John W Lee 11 Dau
Alice Lee 8 Dau
Kate Lee 5 Dau Dom Serv
William Wilson 3 Gr.Son
Alice Chatwin 17 Niece
Julia Piper 17 Lodger

I told you I wasn't giving up

1881: 13 Montague Street, Deritend, Aston ( by Grt Barr Street)
Alfred Lee 36 Head M Metal Annealer? Mountswell, Leicester
Martha Lee 33 Wife
Sarah Lee 8 Dau
Rebecca Lee 6 Dau
John Lee 1 Son
Robert Chatwin 30 Lodger Brass Founder
Eliza Chatwin 30 Lodger
Jane Chatwin 10 Lodger
Robert Chatwin 8 Lodger
Alice Chatwin 6 Lodger
Mary A. Chatwin 4 Lodger
Elizabeth Chatwin 1 Lodger
John Lee 45 Lodger M Painter and Plumber Waltham in the Wolds

1881: 4 H Bk 109 Great Barr St Aston, Warwick
Ann LEE Head (looks like 74 on image) W Female ... Waltham On The Wolds, Leicester, England
William LEE Son U Male 43 Mount Sorrall, Leicester, England Wire Cleaner
Joseph LEE Son U Male 31 Birmm, Warwick, England Tube Maker
Lillian LEE Grand Daur U Female 18 Birmm, Warwick, England Tube Charger
Thomas LEE Grand Son Male 14 Birmm, Warwick, England Tube Worker

1871: 17 Darby Street, Deritend, Aston
Alfred Thomas Lee 26 Head Metal Annealer? Mountswell, Leicester
Mertha Lee 22 Wife Birmingham
Thomas William Lee 4 Son Aston Birmingham
Agnes Lee 1 Dau Aston Birmingham


Could this be the marriage of Alfred and Martha? If so the above Thomas William could be Martha's son born out of wedlock

Marriages Jun 1867
CHAMBERS Henry Birmingham 6d 206
COATES Jane Birmingham 6d 206
LEE Alfred Thomas Birmingham 6d 206
Willson Martha Birmingham 6d 206

poss

1871 Aston

Alfred Thomas Lee 26 Leicester
Mertha Lee 22 Aston
Thomas William Lee 4, Aston
Agnes Lee 1, Aston

mallosa wrote:

mallosa wrote:This is the one I keep looking at...

1891:Leech Street, Ladywood (not far from Icknield Square where William was born)
(all born Birmingham)
Alfred Lee 45 Head Tube Maker
Martha Lee 43 Wife
Sarah Lee 18 Dau Tube Charger
Rebecca Lee 16 Dau Tube Charger
John W Lee 11 Dau
Alice Lee 8 Dau
Kate Lee 5 Dau Dom Serv
William Wilson 3 Gr.Son
Alice Chatwin 17 Niece
Julia Piper 17 Lodger

I told you I wasn't giving up

1881: 13 Montague Street, Deritend, Aston ( by Grt Barr Street)
Alfred Lee 36 Head M Metal Annealer? Mountswell, Leicester
Martha Lee 33 Wife
Sarah Lee 8 Dau
Rebecca Lee 6 Dau
John Lee 1 Son
Robert Chatwin 30 Lodger Brass Founder
Eliza Chatwin 30 Lodger
Jane Chatwin 10 Lodger
Robert Chatwin 8 Lodger
Alice Chatwin 6 Lodger
Mary A. Chatwin 4 Lodger
Elizabeth Chatwin 1 Lodger
John Lee 45 Lodger M Painter and Plumber Waltham in the Wolds

1871: 17 Darby Street, Deritend, Aston
Alfred Thomas Lee 26 Head Metal Annealer? Mountswell, Leicester
Mertha Lee 22 Wife Birmingham
Thomas William Lee 4 Son Aston Birmingham
Agnes Lee 1 Dau Aston Birmingham


Could this be the marriage of Alfred and Martha? If so the above Thomas William could be Martha's son born out of wedlock

Marriages Jun 1867
CHAMBERS Henry Birmingham 6d 206
COATES Jane Birmingham 6d 206
LEE Alfred Thomas Birmingham 6d 206
Willson Martha Birmingham 6d 206

I think I am confused now:
Question 1: Where are Thomas William Lee and Agnes in 1881?
Question 2: Presuming that Thomas William was Martha's son (in/out of wedlock - her first "WILLSON" husband could have died -we would need to investigate marriage details for this) are we saying that

1867 Thomas William Wilson born to Martha Willson and ???
1871 Thomas William Lee - Son of Martha and Alfred Lee
1881 ??
1887 Thomas William Wilson marries Lucy Lane
1888 William Wilson (Mally's grandfather born) parents William Thomas Wilson and Lucy Lane
1891 William Wilson - Living with grandparents Alfred and Martha Lee
1901 William Lee - living with Thomas Lee and Lucy Lee
1907 William marries - father William Wilson

Question 3: Are all these Thomas William Wilson the same person with a confused identity?

might be dealing with more than one ?


1881 109 Up Trinity St Aston, Warwick

Joseph LEE Head M Male 51 Kings Norton, Worcester, England Labourer Pipe Layer
Sarah LEE Wife M Female 57 Birmingham
Thomas W. LEE Son U Male 14 Birmingham Labourer General
Charlotte A. LEE Dau U Female 23 Birmingham House Maid
Thomas LEE Father M Male 80 Gt Malvern, Worcester, England Not Able To Work
Mary LEE Mother M Female 83 Kings Norton, Worcester, England

this looks good though


1881 4 H Bk 109 Great Barr St Aston, Warwick

Ann LEE Head W Female ... Waltham On The Wolds, Leicester, England
William LEE Son U Male 43 Mount Sorrall, Leicester, England Wire Cleaner
Joseph LEE Son U Male 31 Birmm, Warwick, England Tube Maker
Lillian LEE Grand Daur U Female 18 Birmm, Warwick, England Tube Charger
Thomas LEE Grand Son Male 14 Birmm, Warwick, England Tube Worker

I tried to add that one to my other info last night Pete but lost it, too tired obviously.

added it now just to see who's who

Cheers

Mathsgirl, thanks again!
I am also confused but will try and work through your questions this evening when I have more time

peterd wrote:this looks good though


1881 4 H Bk 109 Great Barr St Aston, Warwick

Ann LEE Head W Female ... Waltham On The Wolds, Leicester, England
William LEE Son U Male 43 Mount Sorrall, Leicester, England Wire Cleaner
Joseph LEE Son U Male 31 Birmm, Warwick, England Tube Maker
Lillian LEE Grand Daur U Female 18 Birmm, Warwick, England Tube Charger
Thomas LEE Grand Son Male 14 Birmm, Warwick, England Tube Worker

I like this one particularly as William was born Mountsorrel -same as Alfred!

That would make Alfred and William brothers born in Mountsorrel with Joseph brother born in Birmingham having Ann as mother - 1861/1851 here I come

1861 "I can't read the street" Aston Warwick
John Lee 53 Warehouseman born Bierton, Bucks
Ann Lee 52 Born Leicestershire
William Lee 23 Lamp Maker Born Mountsorrel
Alfred T Lee 16 Tube Maker Born Mountsorrel
Joseph Lee 12 Tube Maker born Aston

1851 22 "Pritchel"St, Duddleston Aston
John Lee 43 Refiners Clerk b.Bierton, Bucks
Ann Lee 42 b. Waltham on the Wolds, Leicestershire
John Lee 15 "Proap Lock?" Maker b Waltham on the Wolds, Leicestershire
William Lee 13 Errand Boy b Mountsorrel Leicestershire
Alfred Thomas Lee 6 Scholar b Mountsorrel Leicestershire
Joseph Lee 2 Scholar

1841 Main Street, Mountsorrel North, Leicestershire
John Lee 30 Grocer
Ann Lee 30
John Lee 6
William Lee 3
All except John senior born in County