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Re: BRASSINGTON

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 1:09 pm
by kdwoodie
1901 104 Eve Hill Dudley
John Willetts 25 Head M Fruitere & Greengrocer Born Dudley
Nelly Willetts 23 Wife M Born Dudley
George Willetts 11/12 Son Born Dudley

WILLETTS, GEORGE BRASSINGTON
GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 130

Re: BRASSINGTON

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 1:29 pm
by kdwoodie
Could this be Johns parents here https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=619664

Freereg
Pensnett
St Mark Parish Register
Register entry number 6
Marriage date 02 Jun 1870
Anthony WILLETTS 18 bachelor Nail Maker Dudley
Elizabeth PARKS 20 spinster Dudley John PARKES Labourer
Witness 1 George PARKS
Witness 2 Elizabeth REED
Notes Groom's father is deceased. Bride & Witnesses sign X

WILLETTS, JOHN HENRY PARKES
GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 117

1891 61 St. James Terrace Dudley
Antony Willetts40 Head M Nailer
Elizabeth Willetts 40 Wife M Nailer
Antony Willetts 17 Son S Brass Polisher
John Willetts 15 Son S Rivet Maker
All Born Dudley

Re: BRASSINGTON

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:19 pm
by mumbles
I think it is and his brother Anthony

1901 Census 17 Danks Street Tipton Dudley Staffs.
Anthony Willetts Head 27 Gas Rad. ? Packer born Dudley Worcs.
Emily Willetts wife 24 born Tipton Staffs.

1911 Census 4 Tividale Road Tipton Dudley Staffs.
Anthony Willetts Head 37 Shop Keeper Fruiterer born Dudley Worcs.
Emily Willetts wife 34 born Tipton Staffs.
married 11 yeas, 4 children, 3 living
Emily Gladys Willetts dau 6 born Tipton Staffs.
Charles Leslie Willetts son 3 born Tipton Staffs.
Artur Sidley Willetts son 4 mths. born Tipton Staffs.
Edith Emily Forrest servant 13 born Dudley Worcs.

Re: BRASSINGTON

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:30 pm
by mumbles
Anthony Willetts married Emily Forrest 1899 St. John the Evangelist Dudley

Re: BRASSINGTON

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:42 pm
by kdwoodie
The only information i can find for Sylvia Attwell is this, i think you may need to get her birth certificate to go any further

Births Sep 1919
Attwell Sylvia Attwell Dudley 6b 1538

Marriage by Rocky
177 18 Sep 1938 St James Dudley
Joseph Brassington WILLETTS 21 B Soldier Wolverhampton Street Father John Henry Willetts (Dec) Fruiterer
Sylvia ATTWELL 19 S Wolverhampton Street Father William Attwell (Blank)
After Banns
Wit; John Vanes His X / N . Smith

1939 Register has 91 Dibdale Road Sedgley Dudley Staffs.
Nellie J Willetts born 3/12/1878 (m)
Syvia Willetts born 15/6/1918 or 1919 )m)

Name: Sylvia Willetts
Death Age: 87
Birth Date: 17 Jun 1919
Registration Date: Mar 2006
Registration District: Dudley
Inferred County: West Midlands
Register Number: B009G
District and Subdistrict: 065/1B
Entry Number: 081

Re: BRASSINGTON

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 5:39 pm
by Jimmy
There is this for 1921 census, possible.

1921. Tipton.
Lucy Ashwell. 1857.
Sylvia Ashwell. 1919.

Re: BRASSINGTON

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 6:26 pm
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:There is this for 1921 census, possible.

1921. Tipton.
Lucy Ashwell. 1857.
Sylvia Ashwell. 1919.


It is Attwell,

1901. Court 1, no 2 Union Street, Tipton.
John Attwell 44. Stoker. Oldbury.
Lucy Attwell 47. Oldbury.
Joseph Attwell 20. Son. Oldbury.
Edward Attwell 18. Son. Oldbury.
John Attwell 17. Son. Oldbury.
Annie Attwell 14. Daughter. Oldbury.
Rose Attwell 13. Daughter
William Attwell 10. Son
Phoebe Attwell 8. Daughter
Emily Attwell 6. Daughter
Lizzie Attwell 4. Daughter

1911. 70 Waterloo St, Tipton.
Lucy Attwell 53. Head. widowed. married 33 years, 9 children 2 died. Oldbury.
William Attwell 21. Son.
Elizabeth Attwell 13. Daughter.
Louie Attwell 12. Daughter..
Joseph Talbert 12. Visitor.
Others born Tipton.

ATTWELL, WILLIAM LANGFORD.
GRO Reference: 1890 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 60.

ATTWELL, ELIZABETH LANGFORD.
GRO Reference: 1897 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 56.

ATTWELL, LOUIE LANGFORD.
GRO Reference: 1899 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 64.

Rowley Regis St Giles.
Marriage date 13 Apr 1879.
John ATTWELL. 22. bachelor. Iron Worker. Darby Hand. William ATTWELL. Brick Layer.
Lucy LANGFORD. 19. spinster. Darby Hand. Joseph LANGFORD. Labourer.
Witness 1 Samuel ALLEN.
Witness 2 Sarah ALLEN.
Notes The bride, groom & both witnesses signed with X.

Re: BRASSINGTON

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:19 am
by NethertonWench
kdwoodie wrote:The only information i can find for Sylvia Attwell is this, i think you may need to get her birth certificate to go any further

Births Sep 1919
Attwell Sylvia Attwell Dudley 6b 1538

Marriage by Rocky
177 18 Sep 1938 St James Dudley
Joseph Brassington WILLETTS 21 B Soldier Wolverhampton Street Father John Henry Willetts (Dec) Fruiterer
Sylvia ATTWELL 19 S Wolverhampton Street Father William Attwell (Blank)
After Banns
Wit; John Vanes His X / N . Smith

1939 Register has 91 Dibdale Road Sedgley Dudley Staffs.
Nellie J Willetts born 3/12/1878 (m)
Syvia Willetts born 15/6/1918 or 1919 )m)

Name: Sylvia Willetts
Death Age: 87
Birth Date: 17 Jun 1919
Registration Date: Mar 2006
Registration District: Dudley
Inferred County: West Midlands
Register Number: B009G
District and Subdistrict: 065/1B
Entry Number: 081



Sylvia Attwell born 17 Jun 1919
Her story to her daughter Joyce Diane Willetts:

Sylvia’s mother went into service for the Marsh & Baxter’s (butchers) family, not sure if Marsh or Baxter family.
Their son who was married (no name) is Sylvia’s father.
More to the story no doubt.

So Sylvia Atwells father may not be recorded

Thank you for all your research and help

Re: BRASSINGTON

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:26 am
by NethertonWench
The Marsh or Baxter son was killed in a motorcycle accident possibly beginning of 1919 as he was killed before Sylvia was born.

Wonder if he could be traced?

Re: BRASSINGTON

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:36 am
by kdwoodie
Marriage by Rocky
177 18 Sep 1938 St James Dudley
Joseph Brassington WILLETTS 21 B Soldier Wolverhampton Street Father John Henry Willetts (Dec) Fruiterer
Sylvia ATTWELL 19 S Wolverhampton Street Father William Attwell (Blank)
After Banns
Wit; John Vanes His X / N . Smith


Sylvia Attwell born 17 Jun 1919
Her story to her daughter Joyce Diane Willetts:

Sylvia’s mother went into service for the Marsh & Baxter’s (butchers) family, not sure if Marsh or Baxter family.
Their son who was married (no name) is Sylvia’s father.
More to the story no doubt.

So Sylvia Atwells father may not be recorded

Thank you for all your research and help

Who was Sylvia's mother ?

She names William as father on marriage.

Re: BRASSINGTON

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:18 pm
by NethertonWench
Sylvia Attwell’s mother was Louie Attwell
She married George Phillips
Had 2 sons one named Ken (Kenneth?)
They lived in Codsall possibly

Thanks

Re: BRASSINGTON

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:01 pm
by kdwoodie

Re: BRASSINGTON

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:49 pm
by NethertonWench
Thank you

I’ve ordered Sylvia’s birth certificate to see if there is a fathers name.

I’ve found out that Sylvia lived with her mother and grandmother Lucy Attwell when she was born in Waterloo St. Tipton.

When she was 10 her mother Louie married George Phillips a gardener and they lived in Sedgley.

A yr later Sylvia moved back to live with her Nan Lucy.

Sylvia had 2 half brothers Kenneth and Ronald who were George’s.

Not sure where Codsall is in the story

Re: BRASSINGTON

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:54 pm
by NethertonWench
Also Louie Attwell had 2 sisters who emigrated to Canada

Re: BRASSINGTON

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:04 am
by rockyfowler
The birth cert for Silvia Attwell is immediate on the GRO website £2.5 https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/cert ... s/menu.asp :P GRO announced some cheaper birth and death certs full story- https://www.lostcousins.com/newsletters ... tm#Instant